can never tell. The curse was the result of Cain murdering his brother, Abel, and lying about the murder to God. Methuselah just lived areally long time (he lived some 900 + years so he obviously had thoselife rotes down pat). This, couldn't have been anybody but Cain. The Bible says Satan was more crafty than any other beast of the field. Any answers would be>: >greatly appreaciated.>: > Thanks>>. > A man decided to take a pilgramage to Rome. The date is, to the best of my recollection, and, I think it is correct, but it may possible have been in the, spring of 1836, but I feel quite positive that the former, Hoping the above will be satisfactory to you and an-. There areactually several such charicters added in later fiction because Jesuspromised that the second coming would occure before all that saw himlive had died. 1. :) Such is the fate of urban legends, after all. Every hundred years the Jew returns to the age of 30. It will be in stores this week. Go on quicker! ", >In article <4ojc95$e@news-f.iadfw.net>, r@airmail.net (Kestrel the>Fairly Decent Dragon) writes:>>>>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? By *This article uses material from the Wikipedia article Wandering Jew, which is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 (view authors). Cursed to walk this Earth by Barren, released 02 February 2022 1. Of course, Sadler was mysteriously murdered while sitting in a cafein Mexico in 1988 (IIRC). > Once in Rome they veiwed the >treachery and vices which were present at the time including murders, >orgies, little boys, etc. He tried to tell this wandering jew of the wonders of >Christianity and get him to convert bu the jew refused and responed by >saying that Jesus was a jew and he knew what he was doing and telling >the man he should convert to judiasm. The Wandering Jew, often named Ahasueras>(or variations thereof) was cursed for mocking Jesus on the road to>Golgotha, or at least that's the version I read. Jesus saith to him, If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to thee? See, The Book of Alugah works as literature and as legend. As if a little thing like that would stop a curse from God? I think there may be some merit to idea that Cain is still living, as we know for sure that there are righteous beings who have received degrees of quickening to allow them to endure long life (translation) making them impervious to death. Purgatori 1JAY. ), That would be the US military werehouse codenamed: Apocalypse? For just a moment, if we can decouple this tale from its all-too-easy association with popular vampires, we can reflect on how it compares with other parts of the Bible. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of thelegend or if it's just something Weinberg made up.). >In article ,>moi@io.com (Moiner) writes:>>>In article <4op6o6$1@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dsho@aol.com>>(DShomshak) wrote:>>>(The Wandering Jew is>>>also a central character in Robert Weinberg's novel, The Devil's>Auction,>>>but in this case he turns out to be>>>Judas Iscariot. Learn how your comment data is processed. But heres one to contemplate over bong hits what if a vampire drank Jesus blood? --Rulon C. Allred, Treasures of Knowledge Vol. Furthermore, if to God all things are known before their time, then Judas could have acquired his vampire gene At The Very Moment Of Betrayal. Barry Sadler of "Ballad of the Green Berets">fame. A man decided to take a pilgramage to Rome. Methuselah isn't the one who struck Jesus. 8:13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live.) It was not necessary for Cain to survive, only for one of his descendants to survive the flood. **Addendum: several friends have pointed out some similarities between the tale woven in Alugah and the film Dracula 2000. Aurelius Prudentius Clemens (b. And if there is>>any mention of him in any of the whitewolfs books. Nimue. Coincidence? I think it's also a good reason to always go back to the scriptures as the basis for our beliefs--and if a belief is not supported by scripture, it should be considered with caution, no matter how long it's been around or who else believed or taught it. The Crossword Solver finds answers to classic crosswords and cryptic crossword puzzles. versttning Context Stavningskontroll Synonymer Bjning. Follow Toothpickings or Toothpickings, Image sources: DaVinci, Thomas Byers, unknown engraver from 1870, unknown fresco artist from 1340, Shutterstock. According to Jehoshua Gilboa, many commentators have pointed to Hosea 9:17 as a statement of the notion of the eternal/wandering Jew. >That would be the US military werehouse codenamed: Apocalypse?>(when it's in Crinos, it's a shopping mall). I'll be interested to hear about the "further experiences". This is a list of people claimed to be immortal. President Joseph F. Smith, Salt Lake City : Dear Brother: In relation to the subject of the visit, of Cain to Brother David W. Patten in the State of Ten-, nessee, about which you wrote to me, I will say that ac-, cording to the best of my recollection it was in the month, It was in the evening, just twilight, when Brother, Patten rode up to my father's house, alighted from his, mule and came into the house. Some scholars have identified components of the legend of the Eternal Jew in Teutonic legends of the Eternal Hunter, some features of which are derived from Odin mythology. [2] When Cain spilled his brother's blood, the earth became cursed as soon as the blood hit the Hosanna! Thinking I might>>run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>>about him. And now are you cursed from the earth, which has opened her mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand; Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of Coincidence? The family immediately, observed that his countenance was quite changed. Think of it more as a whole variety of power tools than merely a lone buzzsaw. But this seems to be inferred, because in reading the account in Miracle of Forgiveness, it does not say that Cain is still alive, it just reports Patten's claim that he met a miserable looking man on the road who told him that he roamed the earth trying to destroy others--and apparently Patten or others who repeated the story later believed it was Cain. Extant manuscripts have shown that as early as the time of Tertullian (c. 200), some Christian proponents were likening the Jewish people to a new Cain, asserting that they would be fugitives and wanderers (upon) the earth. After being cursed, Cain was cut off from the presence of God, something he'd clearly enjoyed before he murdered his brother. Got me. Along the way he runs into a wandering jew who is also imortal named Malkisidick(so?). The author in question was/is Guido von Liszt.The title of the book was/is _Spear_of_Destiny_.An English translation is available.I believe the one most widely available is by Stephen E Flowers, PhD.Stephen E Flowers, PhD is best known as Edred Thorsson.My local Barnes & Noble has a copy; would you like to arrange purchase? Thus this jew is cursed to wander the earth without rest till the second comeing.There are several books out there on that subject too. I was toldthat it was in a wherehouse by someone who supposedly read it in a sequel tothe original book. Now that's *really* strange, given that Ahasuerus is a variant form ofArtaxerxes (see the book of Esther), a *Persian* name (guess hewandered pretty far, eh? INFLUENCER 7. And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end ofWWII. A being who would eventually threaten the gods themselves! Not the worst mistake to make when conversing with an exceedingly evil, powerful, scary-looking individual. Whoever eats it shall be cut off. -Leviticus 17:1014. In denying him a home. instead of wAre-house. There was a series of pulp "Men's Adventure" books called>>"Casca:The Eternal Mercenary" about Casca's missadventures through>>history. The ancient curse is no more. Here is an interesting article that might support the consideration of a certain ancient Anglo-Saxon archetype (the brutish descendant(s) of Cain) persisting into the the psyche of modern Anglo-Saxon descendants: http://ealuscerwen.wordpress.com/kin-of-cain-annotated-bib/. Hang on, Im losing my thread and I think I just ashed in my drink. The only name I'd heard for the Romansoldier was Longinus. Any answers would be>>greatly appreaciated.>> Thanks>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? Genesis 3:17-19 (NKJV) Most people read this passage and say that God cursed the earth. We blame God for the fallen state of the earth and everything in it. But pay close attention when you read, because it actually says, cursed is the ground FOR YOUR SAKE. The New Living Translation phrases it, the ground is cursed because of you. engleski. There was a series of books, CASCA written by the late Barry Sadler (of Ballad of Green Berets fame). Blue, Yellow, & Bleeding: - . My guess is that it's such supporting accounts that President kimball also had access to when he stated the same thing. I don't recall seeing him anywhere, which is pretty consistantwith WW policy. his companion got up in the middle of the night and went in to the bathroom and so the guy went back to sleep and woke up a couple of hours later and his companion was still in the bathroom so he said "Hey -- you alright?" Kimball quoted the story, he tacitly gave credibility to the idea that Cain was still alive. The mans faith is shattered. As far as I know (and care) it is probably the same one the Arc is>supposedly in. BUT to buy into the tale found in the Book of Alugah, you must also buy into the idea that the Great Miracle , the cornerstone upon which Christianity rests, the resurrection of Jesus Christ was just a warm up for Gods resurrection of Judas. All rights reserved. I never heard about him being cursed to wander theEarth until Doomsday, though. cd--"Students are worthless, lazy, degenerate, morally bankrupt scum. "http://www-ece.rice.edu/~rickj/ -- Kosh and Talia, Babylon 5, "Deathwalker". An interesting legend; of course, what about the company of soldiers whoscourged him, beat the stuffing out of him, and put the crown of thorns onhis head? Supposedly it is a magic item of apocalyptic power. Any answers would be>> greatly appreaciated. His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ came back because he stuck Jesus with the Spear of Destiny while he was on The Cross). Methuzelah was a long lived sage in Genesis, I>do believe. This is great stuff! The origins of the legend are uncertain; perhaps one element is the story in Genesis of Cain, who is issued with a similar punishmentto wander over the earth, scavenging and never reaping, although without the related punishment of endlessness. The books focused on Casca Longinus the cursed Roman soldier and charted his journey through time doing the only thing he knew - be a soldier. They imply and suggest but never state anythingabout Jesus or his life. Elsewhere they assumed that he could rest only upon a plough or that he had to be on the go all year and was allowed a respite only on Christmas.. mocked Jesuscarrying the cross to Golgotha. The Armenian bishop also reported that Cartaphilus had since converted to Christianity and spent his wandering days proselytizing and leading a hermits life. I mean, its partly satisfying, right? The point is, its far more likely that The Book of Alugah and early vampire literature independently decided to assign traits to the vampire that would make them a stand-in for All That Is Ungodly, than it is that Judas fathered a vampire race that still walks among us. SYCOPHANT 8. Patten, an Apostle, made the story up?) > I meant to say this in my last posting> > but forgot; who wrote "Spear of Destiny," when was it> > published, etc.I would like to find myself a copy> > and need this information. It is based on the illustrated novel of the same name by Frank Miller and Tom Wheeler. Unfortunately even the very best and brightest can believe in urban/folk legends. Riding home in the, evening, just where his road lay through a dense growth, of brush, called in those parts a "barren," he suddenly be-, came aware that a person on foot by his side was keeping, But the subjoined letter, dated at Provo, Utah, will. Apparently, Patten wasn't the only one to have seen such a creature and rebuke in the name of Christ. Kamenraider, thanks for the interesting anecdotes--also, especially helpful is the actual account of E. Wesley's Smith's experience--I was hoping to find it and you provided it so I didn't have to go searching! We're recording a new c.d. The Wandering Jew is a figure from Christian folklore, a Jewish man who, according to legend, taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. I want to get it more and more BTW, this soldier appeared in the movie 'The seventh sign'. The exact nature of the wanderers indiscretion varies in different versions of the tale, as do aspects of his character; sometimes he is said to be a shoemaker or other tradesman, while sometimes he is the doorman at the estate of Pontius Pilate. He said at, this particular time that he was a giant of a man, about 6 1/2 or 7 feet, tall, very broad and burly, that he was dressed in western habit and, that he was filled with scorn and ridicule toward everything that was, good. God supposedly went on to curse Judas with some boss-level voodoo, including but not limited to get this vampire fans you betrayed Jesus for silver, and silver shall betray you. Starting to see where this is going? I have not been able to find documentation of a link between the two but its perfectly plausible that one influenced the other; either the movie cribbed ideas from the book or the book was forged based on some ideas in the movie. 57-58. but you get the point) soyes, he gets >mention in the booksjust not directly. While Jesus was caryying the cross to Golgotha, he fell and leaned against the side of the house. Hebrew and early Christian legends of beings that were cursed by inverting Gods law exist; and of course there are Bible verses that certainly read like a warning against joining the Lost Boys: There are those whose teeth are swords, whose fangs are knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, the needy from among mankind. -Proverbs 30:14. And if ye hunt, ye shall find. Definitely a band worth keeping an ear on. Your email address will not be published. It will be in stores this >week. >Sorry, Methuselah's the fellow from before the flood. The mans faith is shattered. 1. under a curse; damned. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. 1, Hamilton, Montana: Ether 8:15-16 indicates that many things are done to illicitly gain power (spiritual and temporal power), the origins of which are attributed to Cain and passed down from generation to generation (Helaman 6:30), and Ether 8:20 says they are had among all people. Job 16:18 O earth, cover not thou my blood, and let my cry have no place. My freind went on, > to say that this book was banned by the Catholic church as sacraligious, > and had always been considered fiction. Any answers would be>>greatly appreaciated.>> Thanks>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? Originally planned for 2003, the film took over two more years to be made than originally Along >the way he runs into a wandering jew who is also imortal named >Malkisidick(so?). Aside: Written by Staff Sgt. And if there is>: >any mention of him in any of the whitewolfs books. He was an embodied man. 6 Therefore a curse has consumed the earth, and its inhabitants must bear the guilt; the earths dwellers have been burned, and only a few survive. Blood was strictly for sacrifice in atonement for sins. COLOR PGX 9.8 SS 2005. (how he survived the flood I do not know, perhaps Noah's raven flew over to Cain's little barge, after it did not return to the Arc, after all they are black & a very old occult omen of evil/misfortune & they rank the highest on the avarian I.Q. It also does not include people whose immortality involves living in a place not on Earth, such as Heracles on Mount Olympus[1] or the Eight Immortals of Taoism in Mount Penglai. He was making his. How to use cursed in a sentence. A reference in John 18:2022 to an officer who I think it's sometimes the little inconsistencies like this that may bring some to question the truthfulness of the gospel in general. Considering how little time separates those demos and EPs, its not a big surprise that Cursed To Walk is a cohesive listen, with no production or stylistic shifts in the gaps between its component parts. There was a series of pulp "Men's Adventure" books called"Casca:The Eternal Mercenary" about Casca's missadventures throughhistory. Here is an account, though, given in 1983 by a seminary student as related by his teacher (after the curse was supposed to have been "removed" in 1978 and have been "no more") : --Folk Collection 8a, Group 7: Box 3, 2.4.1.5.20.1, Fife Folklore Archives, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan UT. Since it hasn't happened yet the writers createdcharicters that saw Jesus but where not yet dead. --The Life of David W. Patten: The First Apostolic Martyr by Lycurgus A. Wilson, SLC: Deseret News Press 1904, pgs. )interpretation of evil, strange-looking, powerful men as Cain. Or would Christs blood have the effect of reversing their vampirism? Can anyone site anything else to back this claim, because if this is all there is, I'd say it's hardly enough evidence to justify a claim that Cain managed to swim through the flood and has been roaming the earth for almost 6,000 years. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); *We promise we will never SPAM you with unwanted emails. The other "cursed guy" was the Wandering Jew, who was cursedwith eternal life until Jesus returned because the W.J. > other sorces it matches what they said was goin on in Rome at the time> with regards to the coruptions of the Papal office and may have some> basis in fact. In all seriousness, I have a reason from bringing this topic up. Profiteers have attempted to exploit the darkly-inclined among us by suggesting they could form a supernatural bond with all-father Judas by purchasing an overpriced ring? Plus, it isn't entirely inconceivable that there is a Cain cult that uses his name-title and cleverly perpetuates his occult "legacy." And if you cant handle that, you sure cant handle what Elisha did with the she-bears in the Book of Second Kings. E. Wesley Smith, president of the Hawaii mission told his his brother, Joseph Fielding Smith of an attack on him by Cain, described similarly to David Patten? It is how hiemdall died. Has a son called Enoch, and builds a city, which he calls after his name. There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, which is supposedly in some German museum. Thinking I might>: >run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>: >about him. Read The Unbeholden, by Robert Weinberg. Barry Sadler of "Ballad of the Green Berets"fame. These listings are in chronological order, though some dates are approximate. >While Jesus was caryying the cross to Golgotha, he fell and leaned >against the side of the house. RAIN 3. The first of murderers, now he fills his post. --Bruce R. McConkie in Priesthood, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1981, pp. How is it that these kinds of ideas get started? The Cursed Earth is loosely defined as any areas outside of the city walls of the Mega Cities. Nevermind that belief in vampires, even in Europe, predates the arrival of Christianity. While it's not important for our salvation, I do think it is important to look carefully at the things we teach and promote within the church. I heard that there was a Roman soldier by the name of Carthephilus who was Pontius Pilate's gatekeeper. Thirty years ago, the men of my wolf-shifter pack were cursed, doomed to never find I don't know what this book is called or if my friend just made it up or not, but it seems like and interesting tale. I'm wondering if anyone has verified this story by identifying the Life magazine article he was referring to. This list does not contain those people who are supposed to have attained immortality through the typical means of a religion, such as a Christian in Heaven. Release date: February 2, 2022. First, this is what the scriptures say about the curse placed on Cain: Moses 5:36 And now thou shalt be cursed from the earth which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand. The original legend concerns a Jew who taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. He is cursed to walk the earth. Like the Ark of Commonwealth (or whatever it's called), you mean? Scorned as a witch, a young woman with powers leaves her village to start a new life just as a ruthless army scours the countryside for her kind. "Poo-tee-wheet?" So we have good immortal beings we know as (translated personages), naturally logic would dictate that the polar opposite the anti-thesis must exist also. and you're invited to watch. bring kleenex!www.speedkingrecords.ca Travis Parks, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, > His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ, > The Cross). One boy asked, "Can we see Cain?" Is she even still alive at this point? alter idem Some of the tamer tales show up in a film called"Decameron Nights", and as I recall Pier Paolo Pasolini did another filmversion as well. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. as near as I can recall in the following language: "As I was riding along the road on my mule I sudden-, ly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me. Here's another little tidbit I found on the matter. When he left me, There was much conversation about the circumstances, between Brother Patten and my family which I don't re-, call, but the above is in substance his statement to us at, the time. Thinking I might, >>run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>>about him. There is even a legend of humankind being created from the flesh of Ymir, who was said to be a giant of massive size. John 21:20-23. We're recording a new c.d. A man came through the door. List of people claimed to be immortal in myth and legend, While Mount Olympus actually exists, the Greeks understood a distinction between the Olympus of the Gods and the part that could be seen by humans. It is why Olympus fell. No one can answer who it was or what was cursed in the garden. swer your purpose, I am with the kindest regards, as ever. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of the>legend or if it's just something Weinberg made up.). But it seems they made good use of lock-down, pushing out a demo and two EPs in 2021. Thats based entirely on my belief that Judas couldnt get laid. But he soonfeels the urge of going out of his shop, out of his town and onthe road.I *think* I read that in a collection of stories by Isaac B. Singerbut I really can't remember all that clearly. The tale is from the Decameron of Boccacio, and is a stone hoot. Isaiah 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. hrvatski. Genesis 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Deuteronomy 27:16-26 Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. They were asking simple, fun questions. >Marcelo Herrera eloquently stated>>>>Just wondering if anyone knew about the soldier who struck christ and. The seed of Cain and Ham and Canaan and Egyptus and Pharaoh (Abr. The inhabitants of this region are comprised of Mutants, exiles from Mega Cities, robots, criminals and in some cases monsters, although there are small groups of normal humans dotted around the wasteland. There is a prominent and notable criminal gang operating somewhere in the Cursed Earth, the Angel Gang. He supposedly struck Jesus and was cursed by God to The Wandering Jew would make a great WoD character, though. The ban of wandering, which David pronounced upon his enemies (Psalm 59:12; Psalm 109:10), in later years fell upon the Jews, who "for shedding the blood of Christ, the most innocent Lamb of God, are vagabonds to this day over the face of the earth" (Willet). > And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end of> WWII. And I the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. All of a sudden. > On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17 (mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:> >There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non > >fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, > >which is supposedly in some German museum. How To Read Mass Spectrometry Graphs, Yoorana Australia Map, What Smell Do Wolves Hate, Wing Zone Sweet Samurai Sauce Recipe, What Direction Is The Pacific Plate Moving, Articles W
If you enjoyed this article, Get email updates (It’s Free) No related posts.'/> can never tell. The curse was the result of Cain murdering his brother, Abel, and lying about the murder to God. Methuselah just lived areally long time (he lived some 900 + years so he obviously had thoselife rotes down pat). This, couldn't have been anybody but Cain. The Bible says Satan was more crafty than any other beast of the field. Any answers would be>: >greatly appreaciated.>: > Thanks>>. > A man decided to take a pilgramage to Rome. The date is, to the best of my recollection, and, I think it is correct, but it may possible have been in the, spring of 1836, but I feel quite positive that the former, Hoping the above will be satisfactory to you and an-. There areactually several such charicters added in later fiction because Jesuspromised that the second coming would occure before all that saw himlive had died. 1. :) Such is the fate of urban legends, after all. Every hundred years the Jew returns to the age of 30. It will be in stores this week. Go on quicker! ", >In article <4ojc95$e@news-f.iadfw.net>, r@airmail.net (Kestrel the>Fairly Decent Dragon) writes:>>>>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? By *This article uses material from the Wikipedia article Wandering Jew, which is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 (view authors). Cursed to walk this Earth by Barren, released 02 February 2022 1. Of course, Sadler was mysteriously murdered while sitting in a cafein Mexico in 1988 (IIRC). > Once in Rome they veiwed the >treachery and vices which were present at the time including murders, >orgies, little boys, etc. He tried to tell this wandering jew of the wonders of >Christianity and get him to convert bu the jew refused and responed by >saying that Jesus was a jew and he knew what he was doing and telling >the man he should convert to judiasm. The Wandering Jew, often named Ahasueras>(or variations thereof) was cursed for mocking Jesus on the road to>Golgotha, or at least that's the version I read. Jesus saith to him, If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to thee? See, The Book of Alugah works as literature and as legend. As if a little thing like that would stop a curse from God? I think there may be some merit to idea that Cain is still living, as we know for sure that there are righteous beings who have received degrees of quickening to allow them to endure long life (translation) making them impervious to death. Purgatori 1JAY. ), That would be the US military werehouse codenamed: Apocalypse? For just a moment, if we can decouple this tale from its all-too-easy association with popular vampires, we can reflect on how it compares with other parts of the Bible. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of thelegend or if it's just something Weinberg made up.). >In article ,>moi@io.com (Moiner) writes:>>>In article <4op6o6$1@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dsho@aol.com>>(DShomshak) wrote:>>>(The Wandering Jew is>>>also a central character in Robert Weinberg's novel, The Devil's>Auction,>>>but in this case he turns out to be>>>Judas Iscariot. Learn how your comment data is processed. But heres one to contemplate over bong hits what if a vampire drank Jesus blood? --Rulon C. Allred, Treasures of Knowledge Vol. Furthermore, if to God all things are known before their time, then Judas could have acquired his vampire gene At The Very Moment Of Betrayal. Barry Sadler of "Ballad of the Green Berets">fame. A man decided to take a pilgramage to Rome. Methuselah isn't the one who struck Jesus. 8:13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live.) It was not necessary for Cain to survive, only for one of his descendants to survive the flood. **Addendum: several friends have pointed out some similarities between the tale woven in Alugah and the film Dracula 2000. Aurelius Prudentius Clemens (b. And if there is>>any mention of him in any of the whitewolfs books. Nimue. Coincidence? I think it's also a good reason to always go back to the scriptures as the basis for our beliefs--and if a belief is not supported by scripture, it should be considered with caution, no matter how long it's been around or who else believed or taught it. The Crossword Solver finds answers to classic crosswords and cryptic crossword puzzles. versttning Context Stavningskontroll Synonymer Bjning. Follow Toothpickings or Toothpickings, Image sources: DaVinci, Thomas Byers, unknown engraver from 1870, unknown fresco artist from 1340, Shutterstock. According to Jehoshua Gilboa, many commentators have pointed to Hosea 9:17 as a statement of the notion of the eternal/wandering Jew. >That would be the US military werehouse codenamed: Apocalypse?>(when it's in Crinos, it's a shopping mall). I'll be interested to hear about the "further experiences". This is a list of people claimed to be immortal. President Joseph F. Smith, Salt Lake City : Dear Brother: In relation to the subject of the visit, of Cain to Brother David W. Patten in the State of Ten-, nessee, about which you wrote to me, I will say that ac-, cording to the best of my recollection it was in the month, It was in the evening, just twilight, when Brother, Patten rode up to my father's house, alighted from his, mule and came into the house. Some scholars have identified components of the legend of the Eternal Jew in Teutonic legends of the Eternal Hunter, some features of which are derived from Odin mythology. [2] When Cain spilled his brother's blood, the earth became cursed as soon as the blood hit the Hosanna! Thinking I might>>run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>>about him. And now are you cursed from the earth, which has opened her mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand; Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of Coincidence? The family immediately, observed that his countenance was quite changed. Think of it more as a whole variety of power tools than merely a lone buzzsaw. But this seems to be inferred, because in reading the account in Miracle of Forgiveness, it does not say that Cain is still alive, it just reports Patten's claim that he met a miserable looking man on the road who told him that he roamed the earth trying to destroy others--and apparently Patten or others who repeated the story later believed it was Cain. Extant manuscripts have shown that as early as the time of Tertullian (c. 200), some Christian proponents were likening the Jewish people to a new Cain, asserting that they would be fugitives and wanderers (upon) the earth. After being cursed, Cain was cut off from the presence of God, something he'd clearly enjoyed before he murdered his brother. Got me. Along the way he runs into a wandering jew who is also imortal named Malkisidick(so?). The author in question was/is Guido von Liszt.The title of the book was/is _Spear_of_Destiny_.An English translation is available.I believe the one most widely available is by Stephen E Flowers, PhD.Stephen E Flowers, PhD is best known as Edred Thorsson.My local Barnes & Noble has a copy; would you like to arrange purchase? Thus this jew is cursed to wander the earth without rest till the second comeing.There are several books out there on that subject too. I was toldthat it was in a wherehouse by someone who supposedly read it in a sequel tothe original book. Now that's *really* strange, given that Ahasuerus is a variant form ofArtaxerxes (see the book of Esther), a *Persian* name (guess hewandered pretty far, eh? INFLUENCER 7. And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end ofWWII. A being who would eventually threaten the gods themselves! Not the worst mistake to make when conversing with an exceedingly evil, powerful, scary-looking individual. Whoever eats it shall be cut off. -Leviticus 17:1014. In denying him a home. instead of wAre-house. There was a series of pulp "Men's Adventure" books called>>"Casca:The Eternal Mercenary" about Casca's missadventures through>>history. The ancient curse is no more. Here is an interesting article that might support the consideration of a certain ancient Anglo-Saxon archetype (the brutish descendant(s) of Cain) persisting into the the psyche of modern Anglo-Saxon descendants: http://ealuscerwen.wordpress.com/kin-of-cain-annotated-bib/. Hang on, Im losing my thread and I think I just ashed in my drink. The only name I'd heard for the Romansoldier was Longinus. Any answers would be>>greatly appreaciated.>> Thanks>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? Genesis 3:17-19 (NKJV) Most people read this passage and say that God cursed the earth. We blame God for the fallen state of the earth and everything in it. But pay close attention when you read, because it actually says, cursed is the ground FOR YOUR SAKE. The New Living Translation phrases it, the ground is cursed because of you. engleski. There was a series of books, CASCA written by the late Barry Sadler (of Ballad of Green Berets fame). Blue, Yellow, & Bleeding: - . My guess is that it's such supporting accounts that President kimball also had access to when he stated the same thing. I don't recall seeing him anywhere, which is pretty consistantwith WW policy. his companion got up in the middle of the night and went in to the bathroom and so the guy went back to sleep and woke up a couple of hours later and his companion was still in the bathroom so he said "Hey -- you alright?" Kimball quoted the story, he tacitly gave credibility to the idea that Cain was still alive. The mans faith is shattered. As far as I know (and care) it is probably the same one the Arc is>supposedly in. BUT to buy into the tale found in the Book of Alugah, you must also buy into the idea that the Great Miracle , the cornerstone upon which Christianity rests, the resurrection of Jesus Christ was just a warm up for Gods resurrection of Judas. All rights reserved. I never heard about him being cursed to wander theEarth until Doomsday, though. cd--"Students are worthless, lazy, degenerate, morally bankrupt scum. "http://www-ece.rice.edu/~rickj/ -- Kosh and Talia, Babylon 5, "Deathwalker". An interesting legend; of course, what about the company of soldiers whoscourged him, beat the stuffing out of him, and put the crown of thorns onhis head? Supposedly it is a magic item of apocalyptic power. Any answers would be>> greatly appreaciated. His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ came back because he stuck Jesus with the Spear of Destiny while he was on The Cross). Methuzelah was a long lived sage in Genesis, I>do believe. This is great stuff! The origins of the legend are uncertain; perhaps one element is the story in Genesis of Cain, who is issued with a similar punishmentto wander over the earth, scavenging and never reaping, although without the related punishment of endlessness. The books focused on Casca Longinus the cursed Roman soldier and charted his journey through time doing the only thing he knew - be a soldier. They imply and suggest but never state anythingabout Jesus or his life. Elsewhere they assumed that he could rest only upon a plough or that he had to be on the go all year and was allowed a respite only on Christmas.. mocked Jesuscarrying the cross to Golgotha. The Armenian bishop also reported that Cartaphilus had since converted to Christianity and spent his wandering days proselytizing and leading a hermits life. I mean, its partly satisfying, right? The point is, its far more likely that The Book of Alugah and early vampire literature independently decided to assign traits to the vampire that would make them a stand-in for All That Is Ungodly, than it is that Judas fathered a vampire race that still walks among us. SYCOPHANT 8. Patten, an Apostle, made the story up?) > I meant to say this in my last posting> > but forgot; who wrote "Spear of Destiny," when was it> > published, etc.I would like to find myself a copy> > and need this information. It is based on the illustrated novel of the same name by Frank Miller and Tom Wheeler. Unfortunately even the very best and brightest can believe in urban/folk legends. Riding home in the, evening, just where his road lay through a dense growth, of brush, called in those parts a "barren," he suddenly be-, came aware that a person on foot by his side was keeping, But the subjoined letter, dated at Provo, Utah, will. Apparently, Patten wasn't the only one to have seen such a creature and rebuke in the name of Christ. Kamenraider, thanks for the interesting anecdotes--also, especially helpful is the actual account of E. Wesley's Smith's experience--I was hoping to find it and you provided it so I didn't have to go searching! We're recording a new c.d. The Wandering Jew is a figure from Christian folklore, a Jewish man who, according to legend, taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. I want to get it more and more BTW, this soldier appeared in the movie 'The seventh sign'. The exact nature of the wanderers indiscretion varies in different versions of the tale, as do aspects of his character; sometimes he is said to be a shoemaker or other tradesman, while sometimes he is the doorman at the estate of Pontius Pilate. He said at, this particular time that he was a giant of a man, about 6 1/2 or 7 feet, tall, very broad and burly, that he was dressed in western habit and, that he was filled with scorn and ridicule toward everything that was, good. God supposedly went on to curse Judas with some boss-level voodoo, including but not limited to get this vampire fans you betrayed Jesus for silver, and silver shall betray you. Starting to see where this is going? I have not been able to find documentation of a link between the two but its perfectly plausible that one influenced the other; either the movie cribbed ideas from the book or the book was forged based on some ideas in the movie. 57-58. but you get the point) soyes, he gets >mention in the booksjust not directly. While Jesus was caryying the cross to Golgotha, he fell and leaned against the side of the house. Hebrew and early Christian legends of beings that were cursed by inverting Gods law exist; and of course there are Bible verses that certainly read like a warning against joining the Lost Boys: There are those whose teeth are swords, whose fangs are knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, the needy from among mankind. -Proverbs 30:14. And if ye hunt, ye shall find. Definitely a band worth keeping an ear on. Your email address will not be published. It will be in stores this >week. >Sorry, Methuselah's the fellow from before the flood. The mans faith is shattered. 1. under a curse; damned. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. 1, Hamilton, Montana: Ether 8:15-16 indicates that many things are done to illicitly gain power (spiritual and temporal power), the origins of which are attributed to Cain and passed down from generation to generation (Helaman 6:30), and Ether 8:20 says they are had among all people. Job 16:18 O earth, cover not thou my blood, and let my cry have no place. My freind went on, > to say that this book was banned by the Catholic church as sacraligious, > and had always been considered fiction. Any answers would be>>greatly appreaciated.>> Thanks>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? Originally planned for 2003, the film took over two more years to be made than originally Along >the way he runs into a wandering jew who is also imortal named >Malkisidick(so?). Aside: Written by Staff Sgt. And if there is>: >any mention of him in any of the whitewolfs books. He was an embodied man. 6 Therefore a curse has consumed the earth, and its inhabitants must bear the guilt; the earths dwellers have been burned, and only a few survive. Blood was strictly for sacrifice in atonement for sins. COLOR PGX 9.8 SS 2005. (how he survived the flood I do not know, perhaps Noah's raven flew over to Cain's little barge, after it did not return to the Arc, after all they are black & a very old occult omen of evil/misfortune & they rank the highest on the avarian I.Q. It also does not include people whose immortality involves living in a place not on Earth, such as Heracles on Mount Olympus[1] or the Eight Immortals of Taoism in Mount Penglai. He was making his. How to use cursed in a sentence. A reference in John 18:2022 to an officer who I think it's sometimes the little inconsistencies like this that may bring some to question the truthfulness of the gospel in general. Considering how little time separates those demos and EPs, its not a big surprise that Cursed To Walk is a cohesive listen, with no production or stylistic shifts in the gaps between its component parts. There was a series of pulp "Men's Adventure" books called"Casca:The Eternal Mercenary" about Casca's missadventures throughhistory. Here is an account, though, given in 1983 by a seminary student as related by his teacher (after the curse was supposed to have been "removed" in 1978 and have been "no more") : --Folk Collection 8a, Group 7: Box 3, 2.4.1.5.20.1, Fife Folklore Archives, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan UT. Since it hasn't happened yet the writers createdcharicters that saw Jesus but where not yet dead. --The Life of David W. Patten: The First Apostolic Martyr by Lycurgus A. Wilson, SLC: Deseret News Press 1904, pgs. )interpretation of evil, strange-looking, powerful men as Cain. Or would Christs blood have the effect of reversing their vampirism? Can anyone site anything else to back this claim, because if this is all there is, I'd say it's hardly enough evidence to justify a claim that Cain managed to swim through the flood and has been roaming the earth for almost 6,000 years. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); *We promise we will never SPAM you with unwanted emails. The other "cursed guy" was the Wandering Jew, who was cursedwith eternal life until Jesus returned because the W.J. > other sorces it matches what they said was goin on in Rome at the time> with regards to the coruptions of the Papal office and may have some> basis in fact. In all seriousness, I have a reason from bringing this topic up. Profiteers have attempted to exploit the darkly-inclined among us by suggesting they could form a supernatural bond with all-father Judas by purchasing an overpriced ring? Plus, it isn't entirely inconceivable that there is a Cain cult that uses his name-title and cleverly perpetuates his occult "legacy." And if you cant handle that, you sure cant handle what Elisha did with the she-bears in the Book of Second Kings. E. Wesley Smith, president of the Hawaii mission told his his brother, Joseph Fielding Smith of an attack on him by Cain, described similarly to David Patten? It is how hiemdall died. Has a son called Enoch, and builds a city, which he calls after his name. There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, which is supposedly in some German museum. Thinking I might>: >run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>: >about him. Read The Unbeholden, by Robert Weinberg. Barry Sadler of "Ballad of the Green Berets"fame. These listings are in chronological order, though some dates are approximate. >While Jesus was caryying the cross to Golgotha, he fell and leaned >against the side of the house. RAIN 3. The first of murderers, now he fills his post. --Bruce R. McConkie in Priesthood, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1981, pp. How is it that these kinds of ideas get started? The Cursed Earth is loosely defined as any areas outside of the city walls of the Mega Cities. Nevermind that belief in vampires, even in Europe, predates the arrival of Christianity. While it's not important for our salvation, I do think it is important to look carefully at the things we teach and promote within the church. I heard that there was a Roman soldier by the name of Carthephilus who was Pontius Pilate's gatekeeper. Thirty years ago, the men of my wolf-shifter pack were cursed, doomed to never find I don't know what this book is called or if my friend just made it up or not, but it seems like and interesting tale. I'm wondering if anyone has verified this story by identifying the Life magazine article he was referring to. This list does not contain those people who are supposed to have attained immortality through the typical means of a religion, such as a Christian in Heaven. Release date: February 2, 2022. First, this is what the scriptures say about the curse placed on Cain: Moses 5:36 And now thou shalt be cursed from the earth which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand. The original legend concerns a Jew who taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. He is cursed to walk the earth. Like the Ark of Commonwealth (or whatever it's called), you mean? Scorned as a witch, a young woman with powers leaves her village to start a new life just as a ruthless army scours the countryside for her kind. "Poo-tee-wheet?" So we have good immortal beings we know as (translated personages), naturally logic would dictate that the polar opposite the anti-thesis must exist also. and you're invited to watch. bring kleenex!www.speedkingrecords.ca Travis Parks, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, > His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ, > The Cross). One boy asked, "Can we see Cain?" Is she even still alive at this point? alter idem Some of the tamer tales show up in a film called"Decameron Nights", and as I recall Pier Paolo Pasolini did another filmversion as well. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. as near as I can recall in the following language: "As I was riding along the road on my mule I sudden-, ly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me. Here's another little tidbit I found on the matter. When he left me, There was much conversation about the circumstances, between Brother Patten and my family which I don't re-, call, but the above is in substance his statement to us at, the time. Thinking I might, >>run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>>about him. There is even a legend of humankind being created from the flesh of Ymir, who was said to be a giant of massive size. John 21:20-23. We're recording a new c.d. A man came through the door. List of people claimed to be immortal in myth and legend, While Mount Olympus actually exists, the Greeks understood a distinction between the Olympus of the Gods and the part that could be seen by humans. It is why Olympus fell. No one can answer who it was or what was cursed in the garden. swer your purpose, I am with the kindest regards, as ever. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of the>legend or if it's just something Weinberg made up.). But it seems they made good use of lock-down, pushing out a demo and two EPs in 2021. Thats based entirely on my belief that Judas couldnt get laid. But he soonfeels the urge of going out of his shop, out of his town and onthe road.I *think* I read that in a collection of stories by Isaac B. Singerbut I really can't remember all that clearly. The tale is from the Decameron of Boccacio, and is a stone hoot. Isaiah 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. hrvatski. Genesis 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Deuteronomy 27:16-26 Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. They were asking simple, fun questions. >Marcelo Herrera eloquently stated>>>>Just wondering if anyone knew about the soldier who struck christ and. The seed of Cain and Ham and Canaan and Egyptus and Pharaoh (Abr. The inhabitants of this region are comprised of Mutants, exiles from Mega Cities, robots, criminals and in some cases monsters, although there are small groups of normal humans dotted around the wasteland. There is a prominent and notable criminal gang operating somewhere in the Cursed Earth, the Angel Gang. He supposedly struck Jesus and was cursed by God to The Wandering Jew would make a great WoD character, though. The ban of wandering, which David pronounced upon his enemies (Psalm 59:12; Psalm 109:10), in later years fell upon the Jews, who "for shedding the blood of Christ, the most innocent Lamb of God, are vagabonds to this day over the face of the earth" (Willet). > And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end of> WWII. And I the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. All of a sudden. > On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17 (mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:> >There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non > >fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, > >which is supposedly in some German museum. How To Read Mass Spectrometry Graphs, Yoorana Australia Map, What Smell Do Wolves Hate, Wing Zone Sweet Samurai Sauce Recipe, What Direction Is The Pacific Plate Moving, Articles W
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Also, in the version of Patten's experience as it is related, it is assumed this was a real person, not a vision or spirit, thus strengthening the idea that Cain was still alive. The Wandering Jew, often named Ahasueras(or variations thereof) was cursed for mocking Jesus on the road toGolgotha, or at least that's the version I read. In some areas the farmers arranged the rows in their fields in such a way that on Sundays the Eternal Jew might find a resting place. One of them had the idea to take the board to the graveyard. After awhile they started asking deeper questions. His descendants, with Lamech and his two wives. This faux full-length sums up one years worth of growth for a relatively young outfit, and its a one-stop shop to get all caught up. A soldier is mentionedin John 19:34 but isn't named. Why wouldn't a liar identify himself as Cain, and carry the negative spiritual gravitas to such a degree that he might as well be Cain? Thanks so much for finding this, CV75..I even read Beowolf (though it was years ago) and did not remember this!! Shaken and alone, Nimue presses ahead on her quest, as flashbacks reveal a harrowing encounter years ago that changed the course of her life. Now go smoke a clove and tell yourself how free-thinking you are.). with him, and we read it many, many times. May 7, 2017 - Tumblr is a place to express yourself, discover yourself, and bond over the stuff you love. and didn't hear an answer and the door was locked so he went and called the mission pres. Listen free to Barren Cursed To Walk The Earth. Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh. -Deuteronomy 12:23, And in those days people will seek death and will not find it. Required fields are marked *. JC told WJ to "tarry til I comeagain.". Prrrrrrrobably not. It has been alleged by an 1881 writer, who however cites no instances, that the supposed presence of the Wandering Jew has occasionally been used as a pretext for incursions by Gentiles into Jewish quarters during the late Middle Ages when the legend was accepted as fact. How did he survive the Flood? Actually, theDevil's Auction is a pretty good book -- not great, but pretty good. Of course, this person also believes such things, so onecan never tell. The set location of the series is the United Kingdom. In the 2000s a book surfaced in Jerusalem, written in Aramaic, that is said to have been written around year 843, Hebrew and early Christian legends of beings that were cursed by inverting Gods law exist. I think the reason it's not so easily discarded is that the Patten story was quoted and equated with Cain by President Kimball in his work Miracle of Forgiveness. Cursed is a Netflix Original medieval fantasy series based on the Illustrated Ya novel of the same name by Tom Wheeler and Frank Miller. but you get the point) so yes, he gets, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group. God then cursed this beast/animal and the curse was put on that one forever. You would think that if the curse really were removed that the mark or token of it would at least be taken off Cain (who was white to begin with) if not taken off of his posterity (who had mingled with Africans, who were undoubtedly here before Adam and already black). document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. It is why asgard was destroyed. It is generally about vampires. 67 Likes, TikTok video from Anthony Roach (@ts_blu22): "Cursed to walk this earth alone.". So BOTH of them, after death, rose again. ________________________________________________________________________Nils W | Here we are!Office: ni@einku.ericsson.se | We sail on a ship made of dreams.Home: ni@ibm.net WWW: http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/nilsw/index.html. Interview accounts with Cartiphilus tell of him mentioning of his futile attempts to kill himself, but finding it impossible. If youre in the know, please comment! I am one. Of course, this person also believes such things, so one>can never tell. The curse was the result of Cain murdering his brother, Abel, and lying about the murder to God. Methuselah just lived areally long time (he lived some 900 + years so he obviously had thoselife rotes down pat). This, couldn't have been anybody but Cain. The Bible says Satan was more crafty than any other beast of the field. Any answers would be>: >greatly appreaciated.>: > Thanks>>. > A man decided to take a pilgramage to Rome. The date is, to the best of my recollection, and, I think it is correct, but it may possible have been in the, spring of 1836, but I feel quite positive that the former, Hoping the above will be satisfactory to you and an-. There areactually several such charicters added in later fiction because Jesuspromised that the second coming would occure before all that saw himlive had died. 1. :) Such is the fate of urban legends, after all. Every hundred years the Jew returns to the age of 30. It will be in stores this week. Go on quicker! ", >In article <4ojc95$e@news-f.iadfw.net>, r@airmail.net (Kestrel the>Fairly Decent Dragon) writes:>>>>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? By *This article uses material from the Wikipedia article Wandering Jew, which is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 (view authors). Cursed to walk this Earth by Barren, released 02 February 2022 1. Of course, Sadler was mysteriously murdered while sitting in a cafein Mexico in 1988 (IIRC). > Once in Rome they veiwed the >treachery and vices which were present at the time including murders, >orgies, little boys, etc. He tried to tell this wandering jew of the wonders of >Christianity and get him to convert bu the jew refused and responed by >saying that Jesus was a jew and he knew what he was doing and telling >the man he should convert to judiasm. The Wandering Jew, often named Ahasueras>(or variations thereof) was cursed for mocking Jesus on the road to>Golgotha, or at least that's the version I read. Jesus saith to him, If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to thee? See, The Book of Alugah works as literature and as legend. As if a little thing like that would stop a curse from God? I think there may be some merit to idea that Cain is still living, as we know for sure that there are righteous beings who have received degrees of quickening to allow them to endure long life (translation) making them impervious to death. Purgatori 1JAY. ), That would be the US military werehouse codenamed: Apocalypse? For just a moment, if we can decouple this tale from its all-too-easy association with popular vampires, we can reflect on how it compares with other parts of the Bible. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of thelegend or if it's just something Weinberg made up.). >In article ,>moi@io.com (Moiner) writes:>>>In article <4op6o6$1@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dsho@aol.com>>(DShomshak) wrote:>>>(The Wandering Jew is>>>also a central character in Robert Weinberg's novel, The Devil's>Auction,>>>but in this case he turns out to be>>>Judas Iscariot. Learn how your comment data is processed. But heres one to contemplate over bong hits what if a vampire drank Jesus blood? --Rulon C. Allred, Treasures of Knowledge Vol. Furthermore, if to God all things are known before their time, then Judas could have acquired his vampire gene At The Very Moment Of Betrayal. Barry Sadler of "Ballad of the Green Berets">fame. A man decided to take a pilgramage to Rome. Methuselah isn't the one who struck Jesus. 8:13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live.) It was not necessary for Cain to survive, only for one of his descendants to survive the flood. **Addendum: several friends have pointed out some similarities between the tale woven in Alugah and the film Dracula 2000. Aurelius Prudentius Clemens (b. And if there is>>any mention of him in any of the whitewolfs books. Nimue. Coincidence? I think it's also a good reason to always go back to the scriptures as the basis for our beliefs--and if a belief is not supported by scripture, it should be considered with caution, no matter how long it's been around or who else believed or taught it. The Crossword Solver finds answers to classic crosswords and cryptic crossword puzzles. versttning Context Stavningskontroll Synonymer Bjning. Follow Toothpickings or Toothpickings, Image sources: DaVinci, Thomas Byers, unknown engraver from 1870, unknown fresco artist from 1340, Shutterstock. According to Jehoshua Gilboa, many commentators have pointed to Hosea 9:17 as a statement of the notion of the eternal/wandering Jew. >That would be the US military werehouse codenamed: Apocalypse?>(when it's in Crinos, it's a shopping mall). I'll be interested to hear about the "further experiences". This is a list of people claimed to be immortal. President Joseph F. Smith, Salt Lake City : Dear Brother: In relation to the subject of the visit, of Cain to Brother David W. Patten in the State of Ten-, nessee, about which you wrote to me, I will say that ac-, cording to the best of my recollection it was in the month, It was in the evening, just twilight, when Brother, Patten rode up to my father's house, alighted from his, mule and came into the house. Some scholars have identified components of the legend of the Eternal Jew in Teutonic legends of the Eternal Hunter, some features of which are derived from Odin mythology. [2] When Cain spilled his brother's blood, the earth became cursed as soon as the blood hit the Hosanna! Thinking I might>>run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>>about him. And now are you cursed from the earth, which has opened her mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand; Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of Coincidence? The family immediately, observed that his countenance was quite changed. Think of it more as a whole variety of power tools than merely a lone buzzsaw. But this seems to be inferred, because in reading the account in Miracle of Forgiveness, it does not say that Cain is still alive, it just reports Patten's claim that he met a miserable looking man on the road who told him that he roamed the earth trying to destroy others--and apparently Patten or others who repeated the story later believed it was Cain. Extant manuscripts have shown that as early as the time of Tertullian (c. 200), some Christian proponents were likening the Jewish people to a new Cain, asserting that they would be fugitives and wanderers (upon) the earth. After being cursed, Cain was cut off from the presence of God, something he'd clearly enjoyed before he murdered his brother. Got me. Along the way he runs into a wandering jew who is also imortal named Malkisidick(so?). The author in question was/is Guido von Liszt.The title of the book was/is _Spear_of_Destiny_.An English translation is available.I believe the one most widely available is by Stephen E Flowers, PhD.Stephen E Flowers, PhD is best known as Edred Thorsson.My local Barnes & Noble has a copy; would you like to arrange purchase? Thus this jew is cursed to wander the earth without rest till the second comeing.There are several books out there on that subject too. I was toldthat it was in a wherehouse by someone who supposedly read it in a sequel tothe original book. Now that's *really* strange, given that Ahasuerus is a variant form ofArtaxerxes (see the book of Esther), a *Persian* name (guess hewandered pretty far, eh? INFLUENCER 7. And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end ofWWII. A being who would eventually threaten the gods themselves! Not the worst mistake to make when conversing with an exceedingly evil, powerful, scary-looking individual. Whoever eats it shall be cut off. -Leviticus 17:1014. In denying him a home. instead of wAre-house. There was a series of pulp "Men's Adventure" books called>>"Casca:The Eternal Mercenary" about Casca's missadventures through>>history. The ancient curse is no more. Here is an interesting article that might support the consideration of a certain ancient Anglo-Saxon archetype (the brutish descendant(s) of Cain) persisting into the the psyche of modern Anglo-Saxon descendants: http://ealuscerwen.wordpress.com/kin-of-cain-annotated-bib/. Hang on, Im losing my thread and I think I just ashed in my drink. The only name I'd heard for the Romansoldier was Longinus. Any answers would be>>greatly appreaciated.>> Thanks>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? Genesis 3:17-19 (NKJV) Most people read this passage and say that God cursed the earth. We blame God for the fallen state of the earth and everything in it. But pay close attention when you read, because it actually says, cursed is the ground FOR YOUR SAKE. The New Living Translation phrases it, the ground is cursed because of you. engleski. There was a series of books, CASCA written by the late Barry Sadler (of Ballad of Green Berets fame). Blue, Yellow, & Bleeding: - . My guess is that it's such supporting accounts that President kimball also had access to when he stated the same thing. I don't recall seeing him anywhere, which is pretty consistantwith WW policy. his companion got up in the middle of the night and went in to the bathroom and so the guy went back to sleep and woke up a couple of hours later and his companion was still in the bathroom so he said "Hey -- you alright?" Kimball quoted the story, he tacitly gave credibility to the idea that Cain was still alive. The mans faith is shattered. As far as I know (and care) it is probably the same one the Arc is>supposedly in. BUT to buy into the tale found in the Book of Alugah, you must also buy into the idea that the Great Miracle , the cornerstone upon which Christianity rests, the resurrection of Jesus Christ was just a warm up for Gods resurrection of Judas. All rights reserved. I never heard about him being cursed to wander theEarth until Doomsday, though. cd--"Students are worthless, lazy, degenerate, morally bankrupt scum. "http://www-ece.rice.edu/~rickj/ -- Kosh and Talia, Babylon 5, "Deathwalker". An interesting legend; of course, what about the company of soldiers whoscourged him, beat the stuffing out of him, and put the crown of thorns onhis head? Supposedly it is a magic item of apocalyptic power. Any answers would be>> greatly appreaciated. His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ came back because he stuck Jesus with the Spear of Destiny while he was on The Cross). Methuzelah was a long lived sage in Genesis, I>do believe. This is great stuff! The origins of the legend are uncertain; perhaps one element is the story in Genesis of Cain, who is issued with a similar punishmentto wander over the earth, scavenging and never reaping, although without the related punishment of endlessness. The books focused on Casca Longinus the cursed Roman soldier and charted his journey through time doing the only thing he knew - be a soldier. They imply and suggest but never state anythingabout Jesus or his life. Elsewhere they assumed that he could rest only upon a plough or that he had to be on the go all year and was allowed a respite only on Christmas.. mocked Jesuscarrying the cross to Golgotha. The Armenian bishop also reported that Cartaphilus had since converted to Christianity and spent his wandering days proselytizing and leading a hermits life. I mean, its partly satisfying, right? The point is, its far more likely that The Book of Alugah and early vampire literature independently decided to assign traits to the vampire that would make them a stand-in for All That Is Ungodly, than it is that Judas fathered a vampire race that still walks among us. SYCOPHANT 8. Patten, an Apostle, made the story up?) > I meant to say this in my last posting> > but forgot; who wrote "Spear of Destiny," when was it> > published, etc.I would like to find myself a copy> > and need this information. It is based on the illustrated novel of the same name by Frank Miller and Tom Wheeler. Unfortunately even the very best and brightest can believe in urban/folk legends. Riding home in the, evening, just where his road lay through a dense growth, of brush, called in those parts a "barren," he suddenly be-, came aware that a person on foot by his side was keeping, But the subjoined letter, dated at Provo, Utah, will. Apparently, Patten wasn't the only one to have seen such a creature and rebuke in the name of Christ. Kamenraider, thanks for the interesting anecdotes--also, especially helpful is the actual account of E. Wesley's Smith's experience--I was hoping to find it and you provided it so I didn't have to go searching! We're recording a new c.d. The Wandering Jew is a figure from Christian folklore, a Jewish man who, according to legend, taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. I want to get it more and more BTW, this soldier appeared in the movie 'The seventh sign'. The exact nature of the wanderers indiscretion varies in different versions of the tale, as do aspects of his character; sometimes he is said to be a shoemaker or other tradesman, while sometimes he is the doorman at the estate of Pontius Pilate. He said at, this particular time that he was a giant of a man, about 6 1/2 or 7 feet, tall, very broad and burly, that he was dressed in western habit and, that he was filled with scorn and ridicule toward everything that was, good. God supposedly went on to curse Judas with some boss-level voodoo, including but not limited to get this vampire fans you betrayed Jesus for silver, and silver shall betray you. Starting to see where this is going? I have not been able to find documentation of a link between the two but its perfectly plausible that one influenced the other; either the movie cribbed ideas from the book or the book was forged based on some ideas in the movie. 57-58. but you get the point) soyes, he gets >mention in the booksjust not directly. While Jesus was caryying the cross to Golgotha, he fell and leaned against the side of the house. Hebrew and early Christian legends of beings that were cursed by inverting Gods law exist; and of course there are Bible verses that certainly read like a warning against joining the Lost Boys: There are those whose teeth are swords, whose fangs are knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, the needy from among mankind. -Proverbs 30:14. And if ye hunt, ye shall find. Definitely a band worth keeping an ear on. Your email address will not be published. It will be in stores this >week. >Sorry, Methuselah's the fellow from before the flood. The mans faith is shattered. 1. under a curse; damned. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. 1, Hamilton, Montana: Ether 8:15-16 indicates that many things are done to illicitly gain power (spiritual and temporal power), the origins of which are attributed to Cain and passed down from generation to generation (Helaman 6:30), and Ether 8:20 says they are had among all people. Job 16:18 O earth, cover not thou my blood, and let my cry have no place. My freind went on, > to say that this book was banned by the Catholic church as sacraligious, > and had always been considered fiction. Any answers would be>>greatly appreaciated.>> Thanks>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? Originally planned for 2003, the film took over two more years to be made than originally Along >the way he runs into a wandering jew who is also imortal named >Malkisidick(so?). Aside: Written by Staff Sgt. And if there is>: >any mention of him in any of the whitewolfs books. He was an embodied man. 6 Therefore a curse has consumed the earth, and its inhabitants must bear the guilt; the earths dwellers have been burned, and only a few survive. Blood was strictly for sacrifice in atonement for sins. COLOR PGX 9.8 SS 2005. (how he survived the flood I do not know, perhaps Noah's raven flew over to Cain's little barge, after it did not return to the Arc, after all they are black & a very old occult omen of evil/misfortune & they rank the highest on the avarian I.Q. It also does not include people whose immortality involves living in a place not on Earth, such as Heracles on Mount Olympus[1] or the Eight Immortals of Taoism in Mount Penglai. He was making his. How to use cursed in a sentence. A reference in John 18:2022 to an officer who I think it's sometimes the little inconsistencies like this that may bring some to question the truthfulness of the gospel in general. Considering how little time separates those demos and EPs, its not a big surprise that Cursed To Walk is a cohesive listen, with no production or stylistic shifts in the gaps between its component parts. There was a series of pulp "Men's Adventure" books called"Casca:The Eternal Mercenary" about Casca's missadventures throughhistory. Here is an account, though, given in 1983 by a seminary student as related by his teacher (after the curse was supposed to have been "removed" in 1978 and have been "no more") : --Folk Collection 8a, Group 7: Box 3, 2.4.1.5.20.1, Fife Folklore Archives, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan UT. Since it hasn't happened yet the writers createdcharicters that saw Jesus but where not yet dead. --The Life of David W. Patten: The First Apostolic Martyr by Lycurgus A. Wilson, SLC: Deseret News Press 1904, pgs. )interpretation of evil, strange-looking, powerful men as Cain. Or would Christs blood have the effect of reversing their vampirism? Can anyone site anything else to back this claim, because if this is all there is, I'd say it's hardly enough evidence to justify a claim that Cain managed to swim through the flood and has been roaming the earth for almost 6,000 years. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); *We promise we will never SPAM you with unwanted emails. The other "cursed guy" was the Wandering Jew, who was cursedwith eternal life until Jesus returned because the W.J. > other sorces it matches what they said was goin on in Rome at the time> with regards to the coruptions of the Papal office and may have some> basis in fact. In all seriousness, I have a reason from bringing this topic up. Profiteers have attempted to exploit the darkly-inclined among us by suggesting they could form a supernatural bond with all-father Judas by purchasing an overpriced ring? Plus, it isn't entirely inconceivable that there is a Cain cult that uses his name-title and cleverly perpetuates his occult "legacy." And if you cant handle that, you sure cant handle what Elisha did with the she-bears in the Book of Second Kings. E. Wesley Smith, president of the Hawaii mission told his his brother, Joseph Fielding Smith of an attack on him by Cain, described similarly to David Patten? It is how hiemdall died. Has a son called Enoch, and builds a city, which he calls after his name. There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, which is supposedly in some German museum. Thinking I might>: >run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>: >about him. Read The Unbeholden, by Robert Weinberg. Barry Sadler of "Ballad of the Green Berets"fame. These listings are in chronological order, though some dates are approximate. >While Jesus was caryying the cross to Golgotha, he fell and leaned >against the side of the house. RAIN 3. The first of murderers, now he fills his post. --Bruce R. McConkie in Priesthood, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1981, pp. How is it that these kinds of ideas get started? The Cursed Earth is loosely defined as any areas outside of the city walls of the Mega Cities. Nevermind that belief in vampires, even in Europe, predates the arrival of Christianity. While it's not important for our salvation, I do think it is important to look carefully at the things we teach and promote within the church. I heard that there was a Roman soldier by the name of Carthephilus who was Pontius Pilate's gatekeeper. Thirty years ago, the men of my wolf-shifter pack were cursed, doomed to never find I don't know what this book is called or if my friend just made it up or not, but it seems like and interesting tale. I'm wondering if anyone has verified this story by identifying the Life magazine article he was referring to. This list does not contain those people who are supposed to have attained immortality through the typical means of a religion, such as a Christian in Heaven. Release date: February 2, 2022. First, this is what the scriptures say about the curse placed on Cain: Moses 5:36 And now thou shalt be cursed from the earth which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand. The original legend concerns a Jew who taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. He is cursed to walk the earth. Like the Ark of Commonwealth (or whatever it's called), you mean? Scorned as a witch, a young woman with powers leaves her village to start a new life just as a ruthless army scours the countryside for her kind. "Poo-tee-wheet?" So we have good immortal beings we know as (translated personages), naturally logic would dictate that the polar opposite the anti-thesis must exist also. and you're invited to watch. bring kleenex!www.speedkingrecords.ca Travis Parks, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, > His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ, > The Cross). One boy asked, "Can we see Cain?" Is she even still alive at this point? alter idem Some of the tamer tales show up in a film called"Decameron Nights", and as I recall Pier Paolo Pasolini did another filmversion as well. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. as near as I can recall in the following language: "As I was riding along the road on my mule I sudden-, ly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me. Here's another little tidbit I found on the matter. When he left me, There was much conversation about the circumstances, between Brother Patten and my family which I don't re-, call, but the above is in substance his statement to us at, the time. Thinking I might, >>run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>>about him. There is even a legend of humankind being created from the flesh of Ymir, who was said to be a giant of massive size. John 21:20-23. We're recording a new c.d. A man came through the door. List of people claimed to be immortal in myth and legend, While Mount Olympus actually exists, the Greeks understood a distinction between the Olympus of the Gods and the part that could be seen by humans. It is why Olympus fell. No one can answer who it was or what was cursed in the garden. swer your purpose, I am with the kindest regards, as ever. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of the>legend or if it's just something Weinberg made up.). But it seems they made good use of lock-down, pushing out a demo and two EPs in 2021. Thats based entirely on my belief that Judas couldnt get laid. But he soonfeels the urge of going out of his shop, out of his town and onthe road.I *think* I read that in a collection of stories by Isaac B. Singerbut I really can't remember all that clearly. The tale is from the Decameron of Boccacio, and is a stone hoot. Isaiah 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. hrvatski. Genesis 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Deuteronomy 27:16-26 Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. They were asking simple, fun questions. >Marcelo Herrera eloquently stated>>>>Just wondering if anyone knew about the soldier who struck christ and. The seed of Cain and Ham and Canaan and Egyptus and Pharaoh (Abr. The inhabitants of this region are comprised of Mutants, exiles from Mega Cities, robots, criminals and in some cases monsters, although there are small groups of normal humans dotted around the wasteland. There is a prominent and notable criminal gang operating somewhere in the Cursed Earth, the Angel Gang. He supposedly struck Jesus and was cursed by God to The Wandering Jew would make a great WoD character, though. The ban of wandering, which David pronounced upon his enemies (Psalm 59:12; Psalm 109:10), in later years fell upon the Jews, who "for shedding the blood of Christ, the most innocent Lamb of God, are vagabonds to this day over the face of the earth" (Willet). > And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end of> WWII. And I the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. All of a sudden. > On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17 (mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:> >There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non > >fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, > >which is supposedly in some German museum.

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