On Friday morning, 8-8-69, he told his mother to have a clean change of clothes for him when he came home for lunch from his job at the plumbing supply company. Burial . NOT AT the Ranch.No murder weapons were ever found. So that's 9-9.5 hours, and he if he sleeps for 8, then good enough internal clock to be calling at 4 a.m. An hour, hour and a half, to call it a night.Now well and truly lastly, re your main question, the important matter isn't what he told the police, but what he told his lawyer. He may have lied at the trial. I'm wondering when Roman officialy moved out of that house. To view a photo in more detail or edit captions for photos you added, click the photo to open the photo viewer. William Garretson was born on 24 August, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA, is an Actor. Your Scrapbook is currently empty. JeepersWith all Roman's money he tried to clean it himself?? At one point, he said he saw people run past the guesthouse and heard someone rattle the doorknob before they were scared away by a barking dog. real knowledge of the crime.". He also claims two men came to the guesthouse looking to use the phone, carrying a baby. William Garretson (center) William was the only survivor of the slaughter which made him suspect number one. Born. Stephen Parent did not stay long. You have chosen this person to be their own family member. August 9th, he identified Gibby as the "maid". If like Garretson, they're William's life was certainly filled with heartbreak and tragedy. Landline number (509) 586-4310. It is 1969, there's action in Hollywood and a twinkie is taking an interest in him in a house filled with the Beautiful People. (no they weren't there thinking they were going to kill Melcher in the house). The transcript has WG saying: (1) Parent remarked re the two hot babes in the main house (2) he was lonely. I am going to use deductive reasoning here as well as Lieutenant Columbo logic: Motive, means and opportunity 101.Charlie Manson was NOT present at the time of the murders. "As for falling asleep"well eventually thats what a kid seems to have done,exhausted by fear and maybe in hideing think he was safe enough during his long anticipation just fell off to sleepHe was a cowerd! He sure looked good shirtless. Anyone can jump to conclusions, including you. As a gay man myself, I can tell you for certain that Rudi was indeed playing on my team. I think 2 months. people sure do jump to a lot of conclusions.He passed the poly as to murder but muddy whether he might have heard something. I recall Manson showed up at the guest house in March looking for former renter Terry Melcher. He married Patsy Irene Stanley on 30 January 1964, in Forsyth, North Carolina, United States. So I don't think a lawsuit is that far out of left field at all. The same as with the JFK, MLK, RFK, My Lai massacre, Berkeley Peace Riots, Zodiak killings, Peoples Temple Jim Jones Jonestown, Leonard Lake/Charles Ng, 911 to Chinese Communist COVID. 'Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark' Spoilers That Will Keep You up at Night, The Dysfunctional Roy Family in Succession Might've Been Inspired by These Real Families, Netflix's 'Resident Evil' Show Has Survival Horror Fans Seriously Excited. It was very interesting to listen to that Internet radio interview. Well, not all of them ! Police tried to hold onto him for as long as possible as they had absolutely no other leads and he was the only person found alive on the premises. If you could time machine back to 1969 young people of today would be astounded at the 100's of hitchhikers everywhere especially in LA.While attending Pepperdine and driving hack in LA I was told that Parents car had been seen by the newspaperman parked overnight outside the gate and that Parent had delivered drugs to Polanski.Another fare in the valley below the house had heard gunshots,screams,barking,and music off and on from above. We will update William Garretson's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. On the morning of Aug. 9, 1969, a housekeeper discovered five bodies scattered around the Los Angeles estate. interview.I found a few paragraphs. var part3 = "Deb at Mansonblog dot com"; Edit a memorial you manage or suggest changes to the memorial manager. When questioned, Garretson said he was unaware of the murders until police burst into his bedroom and led him to the bloody bodies of Frokowski and Abigail Folger, lying on the lawn, and Steven Parent, slumped over the wheel of his car. Make of that what you will or must. Besides Watson didn't mind killing this kidhe didn't know the people inside either, this was a killing for no reason except the stupid race war thing. All along, Bugliosi claimed his relationship with Cardwell was strictly lawyer-client.John Dalton drinks too much CIA Jonestown Flavor Aid. Garretson, who stayed in a small cottage behind the main house, was miraculously unharmed and undisturbed during the murders on August 9, 1969. 2023 www.lancastereaglegazette.com. The sale of a used calendar clock seems absurd.Drug delivery? Homicide cops knew this guy without any blood or cuts couldt chase and stab all these people unless he was Speedy Gonzalez.Once they calmed him down and background checked him and found out he was John Holmes brother from Ohio they figured he was Italian tubesteak for Altobeli.Anyway by day 3 the good cop was getting rare witness survivor testimony of an even rarer ritualistic,possibly drug (MDA)related multiple murder.As far as I can tell the cops treated him with kid gloves.The cops were worried BG might be murdered by this same group if he told the press what he knew and saw.I was in Los Angeles from the Boston area from Jan-June 1969.I was 20 and couldn't believe how many hitchhikers there were.I bought a 1957 Century from my landlord not realizing the Ca.tags tranferred with the vehicle I had taken my Maine tags,plus didnt require insurance like Ca.did.I myself bummed rides.Like most witnesses to an unknown perp murder.BG was told that he didnt hear or see anything.Thats why his lawyer did all the TV interview.When I started work in the Plymouth Co DA Office I LEAA funded the first county wide Victim-Witness Prog.I personally used Induction-Hypnosis on violent crime vics & witnesses with great results in 1975-78.Defense attornies complained I was manufacturing evidence.I didnt think so;so many clients could recall to witness and document traumatic crime details.Crime scene forensics was a bit sloppy at the Tate house.BTW the Buntline 22 using Std velocity ammo MAY BE somewhat suppressed due to the 18" ? Oops, something didn't work. I wouldn't want to believe anything Garretson says on his own. Perhaps then, WG didn't hear Abigal and Voytek screaming on the lawn. WG was lucky!. It mentions a few things that I wasn't aware of. Steve was super young. Ok, I'm at 38,000 feet on the iPhone so if this is choppy and full of typos, please forgive.It would seem to me that the people least likely to hear the gunshots from the gate control mechanism would be the occupants of both the main house and the guest house because of the canyon wall that block the sound to the residence. LOLOL WTF?? The guest house was tucked away at the far corner of the property. It was a Friday night. So I'm going out a limb here and saying, no, to homo sapiens homo, and even switch hitter. If the police believed that WG had a residue of drugs in him during the interview, it is possible that WG heard the whole thing going down and took stuff to try to block it out. Lancaster's William Garretson, who is quoted in the story, died in 2016. Lancaster resident Tom Householder, who graduated with Garretson in 1967 from Lancaster High School, remembers the story being big news for the city. It has just occurred to me, doesn't Schreck assert in his book that Charlie and Altobelli were intimate? He was described as having both sadistic and homosexual tendencies by a probation officer. If there witnesses further away from the Cielo property who claimed they heard screaming and shots at a couple of points in the night, how come Garretson who was the closest didn't hear anything. He was the only survivor of the slayings, and the attacks marred his life forever. inconclusive, the detective may think he's lying and dig further, but at the When William Garretson was born on 25 October 1942, in Princewick, Raleigh, West Virginia, United States, his father, William Floyd Garretson, was 53 and his mother, Lillie Loraine Bell Hooper, was 39. According to our Database, He has no children. met previously, why was Garretson hiding this fact? But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. LOLOLThat's bordering-on demented. Garretson, Ralph Edward 86 April 10, 1929 Dec. 05, 2015 Ralph Edward Garretson, 86, died Dec. 5, 2015, of kidney failure. var part2 = "mansonblog.com"; She reported the attack to Santa Monica Police, but later withdrew her complaint, telling police she had hired Bugliosi to obtain her tardy alimony payments and that her injuries had been caused by her small son wielding a baseball bat. Therefore, in the absence of providing any documentary evidence of Charlie's views on homosexuality, I think we may reasonably assume he is not too fussy about how others make the 'double backed monster'. "The police officer pointed a gun at me and I said, 'what's going on?' Reputations and careers were at stake. mind that you don't want to disclose?". Sounds like what Kato Kaelin said when OJ banged against his wall that night. He killed Parent because if Parent went through the gate and lived he would be able to describe the rambler to police. If not, why the heck not? >>>Lynyrd said: Garretson is always portrayed as a cowering child but, he was actually nineteen years old.If it's indeed true, that Garretson heard noises like firecrackers heard shouting and screams followed a few minutes later and did in fact, look out from a window in the cottage to see Abigail Folger being chased by Patricia Krenwinkel AND heard Folger say she was already dead:I'd say Garretson is a coward, and somewhat un-ethical, for not (at least) reporting what he heard/saw when questioned at a minimum.I think most nineteen year old guys, would have snuck out of there a couple hours later (after things quieted), and went for help, or the police.Men fight wars at that age.Who hides the entire night, and says they've seen and heard nothing the next day?The whole thing kinda smacks of cowardess to me.>>>Lynyrd I agree.But I've read where Bill was taking way too many drugs the day before (August 7th) and had a "death sleep" until August 8th in the evening, when he went for the TV dinner and coke.I've never taken drugs, but I can imagine that it takes a hold on you.Also, I've heard it mentioned, that Parent and Garretson did a "gay trist". He wanted to be paid, for the 4 lawn mowings he missed, due to the murders??? I need to find the E! document.write(''); "but at hes age and life experience,it dont surprise me"! (And I just worked nights, so sorry for any spelling errors---ugh). Before In Garretson's mind, since he invited Parent onto the property, he could be held accountable by the law. William Garretson (1949-2016) IMDbPro Starmeter See rank William Garretson was born on 24 August 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA. Local William Garretson adds 'strange' details about . Yeah i think he saw a drug rip of some type,no phone,no car, Parent's car,Open doors.Dogs crazy.He knew he didnt have a gun but someone did.California was otherworldly for how quickly the culture changed.The last 5 yrs of the 1960's seemed like the most violent for the last half of the 20th century. We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. I'd want him to move in with me also. This flower has been reported and will not be visible while under review. LOL.Also, Rudy included in his lawsuit unpaid rent. Col Scott,I am responding here to your comment to me on the previous post (the 'debunking thread'). We don't have much information about He's past relationship and any previous engaged. "Charlie Manson is a five foot seven schizophrenic, who if it weren't for the murder of Sharon Tate, would never be known or discussed. Let's also remember the police report residual drug effect and in part over his evasive answers to certain questions. Now, he flip flopped so many times on the story that you don't know what the truth is>>>Right on Mary. He was held for questioning over the weekend and released after police said there was just no evidence against him. He was under the constant effect of having a low IQ.I just went back and skimmed over WG's trial testimony. cemeteries found within kilometers of your location will be saved to your photo volunteer list. It's possible, but not probable that Garretson had no HA HA. He had recurring nightmares about the murders, but after revisiting the house and seeing different tenants in residence, the nightmares subsided. I should like to offer you my sincere sympathy over what has been a very difficult personal time for you. Garretson claimed on the TV program that he looked out from a window in the cottage to see a woman (Abigail Folger) being chased by another (Patricia Krenwinkel). An email has been sent to the person who requested the photo informing them that you have fulfilled their request, There is an open photo request for this memorial. The only way she could've missed him in my mind is if he had the lights & music off, & he supposedly didn't. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. 16 Aug 2016 (aged 66) Lancaster, Fairfield County, Ohio, USA. following observations in the 1stpolice report: "In the opinion of 1966-173. And you have to remember that all this was going on in 1969 , in 1969 American Psychiatric Association deemed homosexuality as a mental illness , the American Psychiatric Association would later in 1974 claim that was no longer true and that homosexuality should have never been considered a mental illness to begin with , it ;s gotta be something that happens in our 9 month development in our mothers womb , i briefly saw a tv documentary once that briefly stated that during the 9 month development in our mothers womb that the male is given to many female chromozones ? relationship even if that relationship was just friends. Prosecution witness William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. Make sure that the file is a photo. WG must of heard something and locked the door. The cops probably told Bill G.to dont say anything to the press.I was an investigator in the D.A.Office if he was held for 5 days of questioning after passing the most important question; that is did you kill them all? Photos larger than 8Mb will be reduced. I just don't think much of him, never have.I'm really wondering too why they didn't replace the carpet instead of cleaning it.You know, when you move into a rent house, you pay a damage deposit, hopefully to cover any damage when you move out. He agreed to take a polygraph test and passed. Try again later. Are you sure that you want to report this flower to administrators as offensive or abusive? Seems to me Monday would be the day for housekeepers.4) Were Cocaine or LSD, or amphetamines or Ecstasy found by first responders on Sunday morning? But I guess maybe he went into a corner and just shivered until he fell asleep.But that doesn't explain why he told the police he didn't hear anything.Except, that when they busted his door down on Sat. Thanks for using Find a Grave, if you have any feedback we would love to hear from you. While you may no longer want to blog, it would enhance this site if you keep coming back here.In the meantime, if you are sincere about marrying Matt, make sure he signs a prenuptial. The gardener at the house on Cielo Drive, in Benedict Canyon, where The Manson "family" murdered Sharon Tate, her unborn child, Abigail Folger (heir to the coffee fortune), Wojciech Frykowski, and Jay Sebring. (As it turned out, the sounds were of Charles "Tex" Watson shooting Parent with a pistol.) He had another secret family too. we have to ask, why did Watson stop him and kill him? I want to know why the killers didn't hear the music from the guest house since it was only a few feet away from main house. He lived in a town where things change slowly and everyone knows everybody's business. He died on August 16, 2016. Garretson was released from jail two days later. Steve was 20 feet from freedom, 20 feet from being a witness Garretson had witnessed parties all summer according to a wife of his friend.I also heard bg was a parolee! But I can't help but ask Use Next and Previous buttons to navigate, or jump to a slide with the slide dots. County Cornoner Thomas Noguchi testified that MOST of these puncture would were from a double edged bayonet 3-6 inches deep. Are you sure that you want to delete this photo? var part2 = "mansonblog.com"; Ex-Angelino's comment makes a lot of sense. Male . Please enter your email address and we will send you an email with a reset password code. (Assuming this Life Magazine payment really happened).A small fringe group has offered that Roman himself, may have been involved with the motive.I think that notion is quite reaching, and unlikely not something I'd invest time into but, I suppose, not entirely impossible. I can tell you exactly why he did not get out of there to report it.I would have done the same.He didnt know if one of those physcos was still lurking. He said he has nothing to say about the fact that this week marks the 40th anniversary of the killings. indication of truthfulness here because he wasn't running the machine and Try again later. The media has NEVER changed the narrative. Well Col if you broadcast it on social media and my mom finds out, you can no longer "keep" me. Altobelli was in a long term relationship with somebody his own age and actually jointly owned the property with that person. Your new password must contain one or more uppercase and lowercase letters, and one or more numbers or special characters. He is a member of famous Actor with the age 67 years old group. There was a famous message board hound called Karen McCoy Montecillo who claimed she was Steve's Girlfriend but was actually some sort of beard. Parent has an arrest record as a juvenile for burglary. A Conversation with Johnny Ussery- The Then 7 year old son of Clyda Dulaney! It has been reprinted here on the occasion of the death of Charles Manson. This is a carousel with slides. Per the district atty at the time of the investigation, a persons initial testimony is usually the most accurate. Therefore, even if Garretson's polygraph THey did tests at the crime scene and determined with the stereo setting at 4-5 and blasting away and all the windows closed he would not have heard any gunshots or screamsperiod. William Garretson's net worth You have to go back to 20th century thinking, in which there is no autism or aspergers, that the mentally ill are responsible for their own plight, morally weak for not conforming to societle norms, as in reproducing, living in family units, owning small businesses and voting for intolerant Republicans and responding to violent crimes by running to the rescuelike a real man would. He had to get on his hands and knees and scrub it.Of course they never got it out.But they tried.And Rudy sued Roman. LOLI do however, remember bloggers saying that Parent and Garretson had some sugar in their blood though. He testified that he stayed up all night, as he was going to call TIME at 0600, so he could wind and set the guesthouse clocks. The following day, a second article ran informing residents that Garretson had been released from police custody. Police, the claim said, "failed to preserve the claimant's persona and civil rights by exposing him to unwarranted notorious and undesirable publicity." Networks documentary about Sharon Tate's death, Garretson changed his story, stating on camera that he had first heard noises like firecrackers, and thought it was a prank pulled by Steven Parent, who had just departed. ads view current number. If Tex fired the gun in front of main house and nobody inside seemed to hear. He passed away in 2016 after a battle with cancer, two years before Charles Manson would meet his demise in prison. findings, however, did not absolutely preclude the fact that Garretson did not He had been there before, and I think the chances that the car the newspaper delivery guy noted was his. If we accept that Steve Parent met WG in late July, then it is possible that the Rambler outside of the gate at Cielo at 0400hrs did indeed belong to SP. LOL.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppaMqKyQ6fM. crimes. A system error has occurred. thanks for reading all this. It will give much needed peace and rest to his troubled soul. The Aug. 9 incident was one of two grisly slayings committed by Manson and his followers, who were known as the Charles Manson "Family.". Less than a week later, he found himself bumming around in Los Angeles. William Garretsons income source is mostly from being a successful Actor. Copyright 2020 Legal Disclosures, Terms of Service, Privacy Policy Then how in the world did Tex and his two partner Leslie and Patricia get back to the Spahn Ranch? Even more heartbreaking was the fact that Sharon was eight-and-a-half months pregnant with her first child at the time she was killed. Wow that kind of $ was livable.Gas was $.32 gal. George Tawlon Manneh Oppong Ousman Weah ( Monrvia, 1 de outubro de 1966) um ex- futebolista liberiano e atual presidente da Libria . this is just another confusing piece of the puzzlewhere does it fit? We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. hahahaTalk about an opportunist of the highest order.I have no idea what the outcome of that claim was Katie said>>>>"I do know that when he was captured the next day, Sat. We know for a fact that Altobelli was gay and this seems to me like a gay pick up if ever there was one. that night, or any night, it's about the events leading up to and after the they did not hitch hike in bloody clothes at 3am.10) and how many times did Doris Day's son Terry Melcher meet with Charles Manson. don't know.. important to the case or was he simply too embarrassed to admit he'd had an Release Calendar Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. William was not the brightest tool in the shed and after living in L.A for 20 yrs, I can attest to how easy it is for even the straightest of men to become "flexible" Bi-sexual or gay-for-the-right money. Advertisement Andhow the hell does Garretson end up at the house on Cielo to begin with? Why is it impossible garretson heard nothing while in the guest house? You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. party was bumming out! I don't know if you have ever been there but it is the ass of beyond. and Manson had NO MOTIVE to plot these murders (Cielo Drive and Waverly Drive) Charles Watson, NO MOTIVE, NO MEANS of pacifying the seven victims and securing perimeters.Watson did stand 6'2, 180 and was athletic. So it's as much of a mystery as ever. He recalls being at work when news came over the wire linking Garretson to the murders in California. Perhaps he knew that he had done some juvenile time. 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You know if he was that scared, I can't imagine that he fell asleep at all. The Tate-LaBianca murders were a series of murders perpetrated by members of the Manson Family during August 8-10, 1969, in Los Angeles, California, United States, under the direction of Tex Watson and Charles Manson.The perpetrators killed six people on the night of August 8-9: pregnant actress Sharon Tate (whose unborn child died as a result) and her companions Jay Sebring, Abigail . zilch. Tate, who was 26 and eight months pregnant, had been stabbed multiple times. We all know about Charlie's adventures in sodomy, so I guess what it boils down to is, what's Charlie's definition of homosexuality? Shortly after that, Charles Manson and five of his followers were arrested and charged with the murder of seven people, including Tate. In my younger days I've done similar things.
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