1837 brunswick rifle

Interested in gun and sword. A couple of minor chips of wood are missing as well, one to the rear of the barrel tang and one to the rear of the lock mortise. Theoriginal component of what would become the 60thRifles was formed in America during the French-Indian Wars by American Colonists & Foreigners. Vermont State Trooper Jason Schlesinger points his rifle in the direction of 1658 Main St. in St. Johnsbury on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2023. . IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. Great for display. It look as if a collection tag was in this location at some point in time, as the dent from the circular metal tag is still visible in the wood, along with the hole from the pin that held it in place. You did a fantastic job! These copies were apparently hand made, and as such their details varied slightly. You know how it is you hear these old "words of wisdom" way back that sounds good but no real proof to it !! Limited numbers of Brunswick rifles were imported to the United States during the Civil War. The ramrod is original and in good condition. It probably also survived a brutal mutiny in India in 1857 in which the 1st 60th valiantly foughtwith the Ghurkas and EIC to defeat the mutineers at Meerut. ,,DT. The Brunswick rifle proved to be equally accurate at shorter ranges, and more accurate at longer ranges. Something for you as well as all your future generations to honor and enjoy! The rifle was designed to accept a sword type bayonet which mounted by use of a bayonet bar, similar to the design of that used on the Baker rifle. Horrible gunsmith take your biz elsewhereLOL, Enfield No. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. 450 Bushmaster is a rifle cartridge developed by Tim LeGendre of LeMag Firearms, and licensed to Bushmaster Firearms International. Ft. 1542 S Salida Ct, Aurora, CO 80017. In January 1837, the rifle was approved for production. The pattern 1837 & 1844 Brunswick rifles in .704 cal with 2 groove rifling having a 1 in 30 twist. Good day all. The patchboxhasits original two compartments, one for greased patches, and the other for theBrunswick rifle tools which wereretained by a small brass bar screwed into an iron shaft at the base of the compartment. IMA has Brunwicks for sale . August 21, 2022 in Guns for Sale (Private Sales). However, this Hanovarian design was rejected in favor of what became the standard Two Groove "Belted Ball" .704 Cal. The rifling design had been selected not so much for accuracy, but for its ability to see significant use without becoming too fouled to load. Powered by Invision Community. rifle, a design copied from the military of the Duke of Brunswick, a German cousin of Queen Victoria. The stock has a few old, fine grain cracks, mostly along the upper edges of the stock to barrel joint. Thus the whole order was put out to the trade in London at a charge of 38s per rifle. We're very pleased to have the opportunity to offer this rifle and I think you will find our price to be quite competitive for such a rare historic gun. The Pattern 1841 replaced the back action lock with a side lock. I brushed the rust off and am re-using them, but the holes are hopelessly stripped. Confederate, As well as an obvious requirement for improved long-ranged accuracy, there was also a need for a new ignition system to replace the old style flint action that had been rendered obsolete by the introduction of the percussion cap. This is a antique for a collector, requiring no firearms/shotgun certs. A heavier version in 0.796 inches (20.2mm) caliber was produced for the Royal Navy. the P-1853 Enfield. Whether you are a collector of British military, Confederate items from the Civil War, or just enjoy history, this would make a great addition to almost any collection or musem. Purcahsed, World Wars - Military (Other than edged weapons), Shortened Confederate Imported Pattern 1851 Minie RIfle, Extremely Rare Confederate Jackson Mississippi Altered Hall Rifle Converted to Cavalry Carbine, Rare US Model 1865 Joslyn Rifle Socket Bayonet & Scabbard. Evaluators also noted that the simplified two groove design of the Brunswick was likely to have a longer service life than the barrel of the Baker, and the Brunswick rifle was noted as being very rugged overall. The lock has scattered light to moderate pitting, which has obscured the (CROWN) / VR in front of the hammer, as well as the lock marking TOWER 1846, which is very difficult to read. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. . Never fired so ensure you take it a gunsmith should you attempt to do so. WOW !!! Those brought into the U.S. during the Civil War proved problematic and a make-shift fix was found using a large hollow-skirt Mine ball for operations. $ 5,990.00. Forsyth died in June 1843, aged 74. Page 3 of 4. The guns were acquired in 8 lots between October 31, 1861 and March 27, 1862. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. Thanks Jeff for the pictures !! The underside of the barrel is also marked with the same \ \ | assembly mark, and also bears the names John Clive and J Cook. An important part of British Colonial History, this classic Brunswick p-1837 percussion rifle saw service throughout the empire. Their last used mode of communication was a Regular Landline delivered by Verizon Communications. With the adoption of the Pattern 1853 Enfield, the Brunswick rifle, along with the Pattern 1839 and 1842 muskets and the Pattern 1851 Mini Rifle all became obsolete and essentially worthless arms in British military inventories. You can buy them still gunked up with 100+ years of gun grease and grime or one that they cleaned up . The Brunswick was a significant technological improvement over the Baker Rifle that had seen use in the British rifle brigades and battalions for the previous three decades. So I dont know if this helps with the ID or not but the bottom of the stock is faintly stamped Potts & Hunt. I remember something about the oval rifling now you bring it up . Thinking was rifle slings I bought from them , one for my MAS-36 was one . This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering because they are not legally considered firearms. The lock has a mottled gray appearance with a pewter base patina and some areas of darker discoloration. long and a knuckle bar. J.H. more like this Lot Of 3. Talk about a before and after. This Rifle: To the 60th, this rifle would have been known as No. Time to start installing the key escutcheons. Thanks for sharing !!! The Brunswick rifle also proved to require less cleaning than the Baker rifle. The twist of this rifling was increased to a three-quarter turn in the thirty inches of barrel. The name J. Cook almost certainly refers to John Thomas Cook who would later be the principle in Cook & Son, an important Birmingham gunmaker that supplied many arms to the Confederacy during the course of the Civil War. Please note that for international shipping, these MUST be shipped using UPS WW Services. The Brunswick was designed around an unusually shaped musket ball, which was made with a thin band around its diameter. No FFL, C&R or any license is required to possess, transport, sell or trade Antique guns. The Rifle Shoppe, Inc. 870740 S HWY 177 Wellston, OK 74881 405-356-2583 Tel 405-356-9663 Fax Makers of fine quality parts for the builder or restorer. This, as he put it, was to give more rotation but less friction. The Baker in turn replaced the old smooth-bore Brown Bess. Flintlock. My Jeff Tanner mold will be here in about a week. The gun remains in 100% complete . Despite these detriments, the rifle performed much better than expected, and the Master-General of Ordnance ordered the rifle to be produced with a 30-inch (76cm) barrel of .654 inches (16.6mm) caliber. The Blockade Runner Ella Warley suffered a similar fate, and the September 30, 1863 auction of its cargo included 15 cases of Brunswick Rifles (noted as small caliber, 7-groove) which were sold for $12.00 each including their saber bayonets. Lovell tried it out against his eleven groove rifle and, although it was very similar to the Hanoverian rifle of 1835, he was immediately impressed. An altered pattern was submitted in August 1837, and the first bulk order of 1000 rifles was given on October 25, 1837. Here is your chance to own an extremely scarce Confederate import for a very fair price, and add a gun to your collection that you might not see available for sale again for a decade. Has its original brass buttplate and has a repro nose cap and patch box cover that needs to be fitted/attached. Essentially a two groove barrel? I love guns and history but the knowledge of some guys on here is out of this world ! You cannot paste images directly. Not too many of these have survived, especially the earlier more fragile 1st pattern with the back-action lock. Lt.-Col. Eeles agreed that the new rifle should have a sword attached to the barrel in the same manner that the swords were fixed during the time of the War. In May 1836, Lovell was, in fact, instructed to prepare an experimental rifle with a sword bayonet. Originally adopted in 1837 using a back action percussion system, this was updated in 1847 to a percussion side lock system, and then surpassed in 1853 with the adoption of the p-1853 Percussion Rifled Musket, which became the standard for the entire British Military. The round lug on the barrel was replaced by the old flat bar (pictured below right) with its notch towards the muzzle. This is a government produced example and has a tight fit of wood to metal, good edges, a medium tone to the brass patchbox, triggerguard and rammer thimbles, with blue turned plum mixing with pewter color to the metal, and crisp markings in both wood and metal. In an age of smoothbore flintlocks, it had a .70 caliber bore with deep two groove rifling allowing it to be relatively accurate up to 300-400 yards. In Great shape. The Brunswick rifle used a block front sight and a two position folding leaf rear sight which could be set for either 200 or 300 yards (180 or 270m).[5]. "Designed by William Jay (1792-1837) and completed in 1819, this antebellum English Regency-style house was the primary residence of Richard Richardson (1765-1833), a cotton merchant, banker and domestic slave trader and his wife, Frances Bolton Richardson. and Fore Cap are all brass. The Brunswick rifle was fitted with a new back-action lock, two sights (one that could flip up for longer range shooting), a strong bayonet fitting, a patch box, a patent breech to allow easy detachment of the barrel for cleaning and a reduced-caliber sub-chamber in the barrel for more efficient ignition of the powder charge. Right, so now to tackle the patch box - a rather big job on this particular example since we have two problems to account for: Oh, right. This bayonet has a blade 25-in. I need to check them out haven't done that in a while . This gun is being sold by Pigeon Watch member P08 . Almost immediately, the caliber was changed from 0.654 inches (16.6mm) to 0.704 inches (17.9mm) under a new program of standardization. 1) Pattern 1837 Brunswick rifle sword bayonet, Enfield1838, no scabbard. Some of these units were the first to wear the more concealing Green Uniforms as they wereknown as "Green Jackets". By 1830'sand 40's standards, this was quite an advancement in its day, something that is often over-shadowed by the development of the Minie Ball. Its name is derived from the historical German state of Brunswick because the British were experimenting with Hanoverian percussion cap technology during the period Great Britain and Hanover had the same head of state. The. There are a few minor age cracks, but the wood is very solid, and still retains a fair amountof originalfinish orvarnish mixed with dark patina from yearsof usage andmany morein storage. You surly been bit by the bug ! This 1st Pattern Brunswick rifle is a real piece of history and innovation. il primo . My sympathy for your school days). . For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. The lever on the end of the barrel is a bayonet lug. Huse acquired all of the Brunswick Rifles from S. Isaac, Campbell & Company, who purchased the guns from J.E. On Boxing Day, 1836, Millar reported that the rifle had four great advantages over its rivals: It was as accurate as the others at short distances, and superior at long distances. On the other hand another Rifle Brigade officer, Lt.-Col. Brown, advised a long light bayonet instead of the short sword formerly supplied to the Rifle Corps. Enfield Model 1837 1st Pattern Brunswick Rifle w/Bayonet & History. In 1837 the decision was made to adopt the Brunswick system. Among its cargo were some 16 cases of Brunswick Rifles, 320 in total, which were sold for $10.00 each at the auction. Though, using a .69 ball is one method, but the guns have a long history of not doing well with patched round balls. The rear sight is the Enfield short rifle pattern, with a 1,100-yard ladder. Do you have mould etc if it were to be put on FAC? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Dec 05, 2009 #3. Our competition-style Gold . Cleaned them up and look Pretty good for what they are. We are also offering anoriginal 1st Pattern Brunswick bayonetmade by Enfield and dated 1847 that can be purchased with this rifle. All the screws were rusted hand-made ones. 7 oz.) Did you purchase with intentions of firing it? Nearby homes similar to 18195 E Atlantic Dr have recently sold between $450K to $550K at an average of $340 per square foot. P-1837 Brunswick 2 Groove Rifle with Sword Bayonet, Untouched # 600831 Manufacturer part number: NB1013U $594.95 or 4 interest-free payments of $148.74 with Discontinued Out of stock OVERVIEW Sold Out The Brunswick 2 groove rifle was the first British percussion military rifle to succeed the famous Baker flintlock of the Napoleonic era. This is also intact. One he had made with the two grooves in the style of the Brunswick had proved superior to the eleven-grooved model. Hope it helps. The Brunswick rifle was a large calibre muzzle-loading percussion rifle manufactured for the British Army at the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield in the early 19th century. All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2020 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. It should be noted that Lovell moved this bayonet bar back from the muzzle so that when the bayonet was fixed, its guard was not in front of the muzzle - the main fault of the Baker. Original Bayonet (1) Price $165 plus postage. Just from the way it looks, I don't think that one is a conversion, sooner. Did you use Kramer's Antique Restorer and bronze wool among other things? Trials continued to experiment with multiple grooved rifling and eventually, in 1841, a smooth-bore version was experimentally developed. both came Out of IMI untouched. Rifles Shotguns Class III Firearms & NFA Items Antique Handguns Antique Long Guns Commemorative Firearms Edged Weapons . OK, time to show off some small positive progress. The total weight was also reduced to approximately 9 lb. Description A British Indian Army 1837 Model Brunswick rifle. 3 Baths. To date nine examples of these Confederate purchased Brunswick Rifles are known, all bearing the CH/1 inspection mark Curtis & Hughes, who acted as viewers for Confederate arms purchases in England, usually of guns sold by Barnett. In all cases, even the surplus military guns have been upgraded with the addition Pattern 1856 short rifle rear sights. I inquired to the 60th's KRRC museum about this and the curator was nice enough to explainthat each piece of equipment in the Regiment including rifles were assigned an inventorynumber by the Quartermaster. Rounds for rifles were required to fit tightly into the barrel so that the round would grip the rifling as it traveled down the barrel, imparting a spin to the round and improving its stability. The rest of the gun shows the same \ \ | mating marks, and they are found on the edges of the barrel keys (wedges), both side lock screws, and the in the rammer channel. Forum, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. IMA is International Military Antiques . Pasted as rich text. This description as 2-groove rifles indicates that these were the .704 caliber British military pattern 1837 and 1844 Brunswick Rifles. The final change came in 1847, when Lacy & Reynolds, a London arms contractor, introduced an improvement to the bayonet mounting bar. These P-1841 rifles went into production around 1844 and were in the field the following year, and most collectors refer to the improved Brunswick as the Pattern 1844. This bayonet differs from the Type 30 bayonet by having an additional release button similar to a Japanese NCO sword on top of the handle to keep the bayonet in the scabbard. Pre-1899 Manufacture, no licenses required, allowed to ship to almost any deliverable address across the globe. Some of those ended up in the hands of units such as the 26th Louisiana Infantry, which was partly equipped with Brunswicks during the Siege of Vicksburg. The Brunswick was a significant technological improvement over the Baker Rifle that had seen use in the British rifle brigades and battalions for the previous three decades. Probably right Vic . Not eligible for payment with Paypal or Amazon. The wood is walnut, in good condition and solid with small nicks and dings from its various travels and campaigns. How is the bore? Later rifles used a slightly larger patch box with two compartments. The bore still retains its pronounced two groove rifling with original barrel notches for aligning the special ball ammunitioninto the muzzle. I don't think it would be possible to find a Brunswick much more untouched than this. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - IMA Antique rifles. If you want to shoot your Brunswick, you don't need a special mould to cast those belted balls, you can use a normal round ball and a patch as you would for a standard rifle of the same caliber. IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. The Brunswick was also manufactured in Belgium. in years, didn't even know they were still in business. The Brunswick had a two groove barrel designed to accept a "belted" round ball. Please note below is our new contact information as phone numbers and address have changed. Been few years back . The gun went into production in 1838, with the first rifles reaching troops in the field around 1840. This 1st Pattern Brunswick rifle is a real piece of history and innovation. It is estimated that approximately 10,000 to 12,000 of these were made in Nepal. The Buttplate of the early Brunswick had the brass plate fixed to the stock with pins that went through the stock aligning with the mounting brackets of the stock interior. This rifles were issued to Militia units, and were used in the Crimean War 1854. Prefer local pickup as shipping this guy safely is a real pain. Part 3. Or am I confusing that with something else? Canadian Voltigeurs Regiment, 1812-15: Quebec, Ontario. Also has original sword bayonet, both the rifle, bayonet are very rare. I had to lengthen the inletting at both ends as this TG is longer than the original one by maybe 1/2" in each direction. The rifle weighed approximately 9 to 10lb (4.1 to 4.5kg) (depending on the pattern) without the bayonet attached. The Brunswick rifle was a large calibre (0.704 inches or 17.9 millimetres) muzzle-loading percussion rifle manufactured for the British Army at the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield in the early 19th century. The lower ramrod pipe was a very poor fit - this dates back to manufacture. The Clive mark is that of Birmingham barrel maker who worked from 1814-1832, becoming Clive & Son in 1832 and remaining in business through 1869. Confederate Brunswicks:There isdocumented proof that the Confederacy used the Brunswick rifle during the Civil War. All furniture is brass and the barrel is held with keys. The brass furniture is in good condition and consists of the nose cap, ram rod guides, triggerguard, patchbox, and buttplate. The Brunswick rifles documented in the Gorgas summary were shipped to the south in the cargos of the blockade runners Gladiator, Southwick, Stephen Hart, Ella Warley, and Melita. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Brunswick rifle was a large caliber (.704) muzzle-loading percussion rifle manufactured for the British Army at the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield in the early 19th century. Did fine this video on the problem and having a ringed ball mold made by Jeff Tanner. The stock is NEAR VERY GOOD overall condition, and shows significant wear, especially around the hardware mounting pins and barrel wedges. I just found their website and even made an order, nothing spectacular, just a reproduction WWII M1 Carbine Rifle Case. I wonder if this wasn't due to the hard lessons the British military learned from the French-Indian Wars and American Revolution in which colonists used the long range potential of the rifled Pennsylvania rifle to their advantage. Original Bayonet (2) Price $165 plus postage . Evaluators also noted that the simplified two groove design of the Brunswick was likely to have a longer service life than the barrel of the Baker, and the Brunswick rifle was noted as being very rugged overall. Barnett & Son of London. All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2020 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. Untouched P-1837 Brunswick Two-Groove Rifle from IMA -- Unboxing 20,409 views Apr 24, 2017 173 Dislike Share Reale1741 155 subscribers Unboxing an untouched P-1837 Brunswick rifle from. Our Brunswick rifles date from the earlier back action design and come complete with all the correct early model features. USPS Priority Mail international will not accept these. Part 4. However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. Explore other items from ourAntiques & Collectibles Price Guide. The Brunswick rifle also proved to require less cleaning than the Baker rifle. During November and December, six of Lovells first model two groove rifles were given a searching test by a Committee of Officers under Maj.-Gen. Millar, Director of Artillery. I was impressed by the mold and decided to go right to work and cast a bunch of soft lead belted balls. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns made prior to 1899. sooner, Griz, was the Brunswick the "belted ball?" Found in Nepal these are original 2 groove smooth bore Officer's Muskets that have the outward appearance of being P-1837 Brunswick Rifles. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). Paste as plain text instead, We assume no liability associated with misuse of our products. (Firepower From Abroad, Wiley Sword, Appendix II, Page 67) The Confederates adapted a .70 Caliber Minie Ball round which was found to be more accurate than the original "belted ball" ammunition. Best of all, it is marked "1st 60th" on the top tang of the buttplate which is a story in itself.

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