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- Now for the trade itself. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. May 7, 2013 August 7, 2002 September 29, 2007 We are going all the way!" bogeyman He started 45 games and completed 29. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Jamey Bumbalo November 3, 2006 The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. Staub a great fielder with a great arm? August 7, 2002 Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. He later came back to play for the Padres. GoMets2006 Shari My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. It was not made for the purpose of improving the team. feat fan That's pretty good this day in age. Lolich for Staub---it might be the fattest trade in major league history. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. murphy As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. But dad could never pronounce his name right; he always called him "Yo-lich" no matter how many times we corrected him. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! April 6, 2012 Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. September 29, 2007 Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. March 5, 2006 He wanted to finish out his career in Detroit, where he had some great years (the photo of him jumping on Bill Freehan after the final out in the 1968 World Series is a classic). Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! If he had finished his career in Detroit, he probably would have been elected to the Hall Of Fame, with perhaps two more seasons of 15 wins. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. October 2, 2005 I'm still not clear - he traded Mickey Lolich to improve team speed? Jamey Bumbalo 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. He started 45 games and completed 29. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. No contest. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. October 19, 2011 He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. He pitched very good ball for you. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Mickey liked his doughnuts. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the God bless him wherever he is and good luck! The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. October 13, 2008 The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. That would make him a star in today's market. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. December 20, 2019 September 24, 2005 Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. Max Power Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. August 7, 2018 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. October 13, 2008 October 19, 2011 That's more realistic but generous, I think! He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. Mike B Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. Background Lolich, Mickey Stephen was born on September 12, 1940 in Portland, Oregon, United States. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. Bobster1985 So Wood handed Lolich two of his 14 losses that season, and two of Wood's 22 wins came against Mickey. No contest. Robert The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. Feat Fan McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." Bobster1985 October 2, 2005 Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. -. October 2, 2005 Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. February 27, 2002 That's more realistic but generous, I think! End of Line Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. January 12, 2011 As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. October 4, 2006 He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. August 11, 2015 Bob P But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. Cut him some slack. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. I disagree that Billy Martin had overused Mickey Lolich and Joe Coleman. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. May 6, 2003 Really? The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Maybe Rusty was not in his prime when the Tigers got him, but the man could still swing the bat. Bartolo Colon etc). Bartolo Colon etc). As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. Jay HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Mickey liked his doughnuts. 6'1", 170???? April 23, 2003 April 30, 2009 Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. What an interesting parallel, huh? As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. Not to say the trade wasn't awful - but come on! GoMets2006 And Rusty Staub? He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. March 2, 2003 April 20, 2002 I thought Rusty filled that uniform out pretty well himself! or Bruce Kison. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! June 30, 2019 To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? January 12, 2011 Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. Mr. Sparkle Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. Although Mick was not the same pitcher in NY that he was in Detroit, everyone seemed to like the guy. March 5, 2006 But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. January 12, 2011 But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Staub a great fielder with a great arm? 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Donut Shoppe Patron As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. NYB Buff His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. April 23, 2003 October 19, 2011 August 11, 2015 Check out his 1971 season: 45 starts. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. Joe Figliola Staub a great fielder with a great arm? To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? Mickey was finished and Rusty still had about 8-10 years left, even though the last couple were solely as a pinch hitter. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. Michael I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. That's more realistic but generous, I think! In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. bogeyman 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. Shickhaus Franks I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. etc. No contest. Scrappy End of Line I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. This has never happened before? January 12, 2011 Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. October 13, 2008 God bless him wherever he is and good luck! September 25, 2013 When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. Dianna Jeanneh Jones MLB.TV Watch & Listen Archives . May 8, 2003 Raymond Malcuit Jr. Lolich was a fine pitcher. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. September 12, 2002 Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. 6'1", 170???? He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Man, he was a big one. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. bogeyman December 24, 2001 Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. Everything from notable pioneers, celebrities, vintage ads, and much much more! Let's understand one thing: this wasn't a "trade" in the traditional sense. July 15, 2016 He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. He pitched very good ball for you. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. I had a Mickey Lolich mitt. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the The point is he made a bad team worse. Baked fresh in the in-house bakery, with delicious choices such as salted caramel, vanilla custard or a good traditional raspberry jam. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. And Rusty Staub? But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Rumor had it that a car left the tracks on one occasion and dropped out of site. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. I thought Rusty filled that uniform out pretty well himself! I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Fact is Lolich was always overweight. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. April 27, 2013 Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. You can't be serious. Bob P 170 lbs.? The point is he made a bad team worse. 170 lbs.? October 19, 2011 Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. Ramblin' Pete He says he has only one regret over his abbreviated football career"I wish I'd made more money. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. Although Mick was not the same pitcher in NY that he was in Detroit, everyone seemed to like the guy. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. Michael Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. Our collection of home-made baseball cards, in the style of the classic Topps cards of the 1970's. August 7, 2018 October 19, 2011 I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. or Bruce Kison. I was 7 years old, listening to the Mets on the radio in the car with my mother. Shari Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. March 5, 2006 In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. =Chuck= October 13, 2008 The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." April 23, 2003 He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. November 3, 2006 We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. Max Power I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. He later came back to play for the Padres. Randy Tate bob saunders Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the Raymond Malcuit Shari Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? August 11, 2015 Larry Burns Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. September 12, 2002 End of Line August 11, 2015 As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. December 20, 2019 April 23, 2003 He still knew how to pitch but had no run support to get him a winning record. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. June 2, 2006 I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Dianna Jeanneh Jones If he had finished his career in Detroit, he probably would have been elected to the Hall Of Fame, with perhaps two more seasons of 15 wins. Mickey loved his Harley. Mike B Randy Tate June 30, 2019 GoMets2006 Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. LA-Mets I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. (thankfully returning in '81). Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978).

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