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You should be trying to think of ways that your family can right the numerous wrongs they committed in the past. Son Moses is also a well documented Revolutionary War soldier, Nenetoonyah/Bloody Fellow; [[Moytoy-123]] This comes straight from a theory of James Hicks with zero documentation. Tommy Wright (R-Victoria) Del. Wurteh Elizabeth Watts was born in 1751, in Cherokee, North Carolina, United States as the daughter of John Old Fork Tongue Watts. I'm a descendent of Gosaduisga and have seen some conflicting info, but your research has been insightful. He was known as Standing Turkey Cornstalk the son of Big Turkey Cornstalk the grandson of Hokolesqua Opechan Cornstalk. It show how many gens back we are related. Her mother was Nancy or Nannie Ward, daughter of Catherine McDaniel, who was the daughter of Granny Hopper, who was Old Hop's daughter. It shows him as 26 years old and his family card shows what I would guess is his wife and 3 children (a set of twins and another child). That said, Many of us are solidly related and are already citizens of the Cherokee Nation. Lucy Benge Lowrey: Lucy is usually described as the sister of Bob Benge and is commonly listed with Wurteh as her mother. Vivian Watts (D-Annandale) Del. This website is a total fraud witn no proofs or substantial evidence. Obediah Benge lived in Georgia while John Benge was also alive and living there. I have found most of my info on Ancestry.com I know about as much as you! I just do not know how to prove this. could this be my answer. I already consider myself Cherokee, but would love to officially sign up. And there are free places to search the rolls.Just Google Dawes Roll but here is an easy one that is free http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes. Your help would be treasured.Carol, I am also a descendent of Moytoy. Maybe but my relatives still live in West Virginia that comes step by step of going to the moytoy. Moytoy pigeon of tellico had a daughter ani-ga-tage-wi moytoy whom married John Joseph Vann, they had a daughter Mary ottertail whom married 6x great grandfather Henry McGee. Not the same person. But I don't know if that means I am a member of a particular Cherokee tribe?? I would really, really, really appreciate it. Pam chatty_devine@yahoo.com, I believe I am 11th generation descendent of Chief Moytoy. Wurteh Elizabeth. Thanks for the addition. Can I assume that 'Trade Carpenter' is Amatoya Moytoy? Try using our image search and remember to check the name spelling. What is so astonishing is that my mother is descended from Mary Moore Ayres and John Amory while my father is descended from Mary and Thomas Ayres! The peace party included Bob McLemore, Tahlonteeskee, Captain Charley of Running Water, and Doublehead, as well as the white delegates. I am a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. I believe he should be detached from Wurteh. I matched someone who has the Essary Surname. Robert Due [[Due-74]]: No source is listed for this claim. In October 1788, following the murder of his uncle Old Tassel by frontiersmen, Watts led a large war party into North Carolina's Washington District (now Tennessee). I have over 140 names associated with the dawes and guion miller rolls but none of which have proven beneficial due to the 7 years of enrollment and residence in ok at the time rule. ok as an outsider of all your bickering let me ask .. What is Fact?? with a Cigarette / Tobacco Retailer permit #21002394 which began on 08/15/2021. this probably makes us distant cousins ronda essary. Please just so I can show people I know working on information of the Moytoy and between Moytoy having children. . He died in 1867 and was buried at White Oak, Arkansas. My grandfather founded the Cherokee Elders Council in 1996. The Cherokee people, along with Watts' Chickmauga warriors, agreed to await the outcome of the subsequent trial. Elizabeth Judd was the daugther of Rowland Judd and Robin Moytoy/Cherokee. **Also known as Sally, Sookie, and Granny Hopper. As my Great grandmother had Irish Parents who came to Liverpool, England at the time of the Famine. The Booker line did intermarry with Cherokee. I do not know to put this together to prove it. Many researchers believe Parker Adkins only had 2 children with Bluesky, Littleberry and Charity. Watts intervened and saved another young boy, handing him to Vann, who put the boy behind him on his horse and later handed him over to three of the Muscogee for safe-keeping. Elizabeth Watts's income source is mostly from being a successful . In my line Tharp marries a female Vance. The research on this blog and on Ancestry.com is for me, my children, my grandchildren, future generations and anyone else who is interested. Chief Vann had nothing to do with Shoeboots' and his slave Doll's children's separation. Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first deceive! I'm a descendant through Moytoy, Doublehead, Colbert, Tharp, etc. My gggg grandfather is Old Hop-Standing Turkey- Kanagatuckco. Bluesky's father was Shawnee Chief Cornstalk. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. this Thomas Pasmere Corn Planter Carpenter character is a mad up fictional and fraudulent character based on nothing but lies. Can we clean up the profile of "Wurteh Watts" ? The Carpenter family were royalty in England, I believe an owned many ships. DAUGHERTY/DOUGHERTY, NATHAN LAWSON,SAMPSON LAWSON, GEORGE LAWSON, MARY/MAHALA LAWSON, EVERETTE BADWIN (GPA), BEVERLY BALDWIN (MOM) KARYN BISHOF (ME)PLEASE EMAIL ME AT KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COM. With a name like Pride, which is english, it would seem that Thomas Carpenter was not the only white to intermarry at this time. thats the link to my tree if you would like to view it. The young Watts was raised in Cherokee culture. I have seen you on my tree links for years. The removal was triggered by a small faction of Cherokee who made their own treaty with the U.S. government at New Echota, Georgia on December 29, 1835. I have 124 names on the rolls between guion miller and dawes (CN and EB). -KARYN BISHOFALSO DO ANY OF THESE NAMES LINE UP WITH YOURS?WHICH NAME DID YOU OBTAIN ENROLLMENT FROMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoy********su-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperMARY MCDANIELWILLIAM MCDANIEL********anuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me). I did not even know that we were related to the Cherokee, so this has been very exciting! He was the father of Matoaka "Pocahontas" Powhatan. As a descendent of Attacullaculla (a member of the family by marriage, adoption, and possibly blood), family tradition often solves a lot of these problems. I always knew I had Indian but did not know anything about my Heritage until now. Evans, E. Raymond. I am descended from Ann Dabbs (maiden name: Watts and born 1773) who was the daughter of Malachi (Unacata or "White Man Killer" Watts (born around 1751-1754). Malachi is the son of Robert Parris and Penny Langley. So none of this can be proven or dis-proven and anyone who wants to verify their link to the Cherokee needs to do so for present day and post Sequoyah but their Colonial history is lost to the sands of time. Happy Hunting, Thanks. SOOKIE SUSANNAH Su'Gi "GRASSHOPPER" Moytoy is my 5th great grandmother on the opposite side of my family. My info shows that he died that same year.I am a related. My name is William Ray Allison, Jr. My dad's mother, Cora Waters, was enrolled in the Dawes Roll as was her mother, Maudie Condreay Waters, her mother, Barbara Allie Palone Condreay, and her mother, Mary Parris Palone. 'Cause DNA proves nothing. I am surprised that so many people are so negative. Family life. Layla.bug1284@gmail.com, Osiyo Cousin. . Yet, I have seen people with as little as 1/500th blood quantum who inspire the spirits of their ancestors because they make being Cherokee a proud part of a their everyday life.". Born in Tasagi Town, Cherokee, Alabama, USA on 1750 to Chief John Trader Watts Sr became Principal Chief after Doublehead died and Chief Tarchee "The Long Warrior" of Tellico "Great Eagle" Of the Bird Clan. We already know who our relatives are. It is not the amount of Cherokee you have, it is strictly about the Dawes Roll. I'm looking for lists of those who made the March to Oklahoma. i am james barry stricklin of savannah,tn and i am a desendant of cheif moytoy and granny hopper through thomas essary to minnie essary ,but i nee help with this please send an e-mail to hardinco2000@yahoo.com and tell me how im kin. May I suggest research and study the factual truth instead of false, fictional and fraudulent fantasies and fairytales from fairyland and wonderland. I am positive tho that I am descendant of Moytoy's grandaughter White Wing "big Nancy" Cornstalk, d.o. He was never married to a Mary at all. Original source documentation trumps BS posted online by wanabes and armchair researchers chasing CDIB cards through fictitious Cherokee Princesses. What better job than working with the Indians. Yeah. I went to the Research center at Tahlequah last week but, was looking for my husband who is enrolled and wants to find out what clan he comes from. Records: 111. You are an angry yoneg who has probably created a fake tribe ($$-making NDN club) that issues fake tribal cards for $ because you are ineligible for citizenship in any of the three federally recognized Cherokee tribes. This is a magnificent summary of all the research youve done, Kathie! General Winfield Scott orders the Cherokee people not to resist the removal order. sharon does it matter how far back? About* Elizabeth Watts, LMSW is a social worker in Herkimer, NY. The same Joseph Vann who was sent in for the Transylvania Land Company by the Virginia banking firm of Isaiah Isaacs and Jacob Cohen to help illegally purchase Kentucky. Remember the story of when James Vann caught a slave stealing food and burned him alive? When James Watts was born in 1748, in Virginia, British Colonial America, his father, John Watts, was 24 and his mother, Tali Wurteh Red Paint Wadi, was 38. Amazing! What a tragidy it would be if all those people believing to have these descendents were all mislead. The last thing you should be worried about is who is or isn't a real Cherokee. . Only original work can be copyrighted. That alone would make one look sideways but that's the way it has worked out, and although I can assure you it's the truth as I can find it, I will never prove it! And him applying for the Dawes Rolls. Teach us what a real Cherokee is, please. However, after the settlers had walked out, Doublehead's group and his Muscogee allies attacked and killed them. In large part because the man responsible (who had lost his family in an Indian raid) was a close friend of John Sevier, the trial proved to be a farce. In reply to: Re: Daniel D. Watts - AL b. abt. But I unfortunately have not been able to trase them on the rolls because she married a while man and movies to Tennessee. That he died that same year.I am a member of a particular Cherokee tribe? also a descendent Gosaduisga. 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